Brother with Suffering
In Tribe the healing field of acknowledgment provides a lot of support
in getting the smile to come out during the drama.
There is no "Trading Tribe" nearby. I just wonder how to encourage my
brother to experience his feelings of suffering while going through a
conflictual divorce and losing half of his property in the process. And
sort of sharing somewhat the suffering with him too.
you for raising this issue.
In Tribe, we do not try to fix people.
If they request a place on the hot seat, we test for willingness before
we proceed - and we keep testing for willingness as we go along.
You can certainly tell your brother about your concerns. You
might notice you have different concerns than he has. If he requests
your help you can proceed according the type of help he requests.
Forcing a "healing field" on him, or even trying to get him to smile
might have more to do with your own concerns than with his.
You might note that his process includes setting up for a divorce and
Until he comes to terms with intentions = results, your attempts to
his feelings may serve to obscure his self-realizations.
You might consider taking your feelings about <wanting to help
your brother> to Tribe.
More on the
Meaning of Suffering
TTP, you don't get to redeem your suffering for redemption or other
prizes, aside from getting to suffer.
In TTP we
encourage a client to smile and enjoy his feelings of suffering - and
then watch him laugh and drop the drama.
I see the point of not getting to redeem one's suffering for redemption
or other prizes, aside from getting to suffer, as TTP is centered on
the ever flowing moment of "now".
I just wonder how one gets to "smile" and "enjoy" his feelings of
suffering, while suffering. :) It seems a lot of encouragement is
needed from other tribe fellows. :)
you for sharing your wonder about smiling and enjoying feeling during
You pretty much have to attend a Tribe meeting to see how it works.
The DIM (Do It Myself) process rarely gets this result. In Tribe the
healing field of acknowledgment provides a lot of support in getting
the smile to come out during the drama.
Trading to Trend
I was stopped out of my gold a day after I returned from PR (at around
$1320 - currently around $1270 or $50 lower). Palladium stopped out as
well. Soybean Oil is working for me and I have stopped day trading and
will strictly adhere to the (longer-term trend) methods you showed me.
you for sharing
Congratulation on cutting losses and riding winners and staying with
longer trends - and especially for changing your whole approach to
trading in a few hours.
Since our visit, I have some other methods under investigation for
de-programming extra-stubborn day traders.
Here, the de-programmer
shows the day trader
a live one-minute bar chart,
above, on ceiling.
She administers electro-convulsions
every time she sees his hand
for his computer mouse.
I wonder how one can raise his consciousness.
Or I wonder how you did it and how I can do it also.
you for raising
In TTP we do not "raise consciousness" as that implies:
1. consciousness as a thing,
2. consciousness having a place.
3. higher place preferable to lower place.
Proceeding from these assumptions, you can quickly raise your
standing on a chair. See Illustration, below.
In TTP, among other things, we strive to experience and celebrate our
feelings, to distinguish between intimacy-centric and control-centric
relating and to find something inside ourselves to share with others.
My husband is a trader and he introduced me to your website a few
months ago. I have been reading through FAQ over these
I feel this is the best thing that has happened to us. TTP has changed
the way I look at life. It has brought me and my husband closer
We are US citizens living in India. Wanted to buy your Trading Tribe
book, and so set up PayPal using Wells CC which has our India address.
Not sure if that was causing the issue. Please tell me how best to make
the payment. I can transfer the money directly to you or send a photo
of Wells Fargo check that you can deposit. Mailing the check from India
will only delay the matter.
Thanks for responding and Thanks for everything you do!
you for sharing
your process and for raising the payment issue.
You can configure your PayPal account to pass charges through to Wells
You can also bypass PayPal altogether and use your Wells Fargo Visa
Card on my site.
Hi Ed! I hope this finds you well.
I have a question: which in the meaning of suffering in the TTP?
I have noticed this is a question which religion often tries to answer,
sort of trying to find a meaning, source of or a purpose for it, such
as "purging" of the soul, a result of attachment to material things,
clearing of debt of purportedly past lives, etc.
In the TTP context which is the meaning of 'suffering'? Thanks!
you for raising
In TTP we come to celebrate and harvest the positive intentions of all
Pain and Suffering describe the process of experiencing not liking a
feeling, not experiencing its positive intention.
For example, some kids take their parents to a heavy metal rock
concert. The kids like the feelings they get from the
lead guitar. The parents judge the sound painful to their ears and
suffer through the concert.
Some people find spanking painful; some find it erotic.
Some people find reading this blog painful; others seem to like it and
keep coming back for more.
Also, in TTP, you don't get to redeem your suffering for redemption or
other prizes, aside from getting to suffer.
In TTP we sometimes encourage a client to smile and enjoy his feelings
of suffering - and then watch him laugh and drop the drama.
Grief and Redemption
The past two weeks find me on a roller coaster of emotions that feel
both incredibly painful and incredibly exhilarating. I
to learn about the value of feeling all feelings, no matter how
uncomfortable and unwanted they seem at the time.
Two weeks ago my beloved companion of the past nine years, including
the past six years since my husband died, suddenly dropped dead at my
feet despite appearing to be in the best of health. (Yes, she
my canine companion, and in many ways a superior, certainly easier,
companion than any human could be!)
I do not recall experiencing such profound grief ever before in my
life, even when my husband died. (I do believe that some of
current grief tapped the unexpressed feelings about his death.)
Without reservation, I have given full voice to my pain, my
devastation, to what felt like the loss of the anchor for my
life. I recall feeling glad that I do not live with any
so that my natural tendency to hold back would not inhibit me from a
full-on honoring of my feelings. I give myself permission to
so deeply about "just a dog".
I realize that deep love goes hand in hand with deep pain,
all relationships are in fact destined to end, even the happy
ones. Part of grief, especially at first, is the certainty
will never love like this again, will never allow myself to risk this
kind of pain again. The hole in my life gapes, never to be
Yet, we humans keep choosing to love again. On some profound
level of understanding, we accept that joy cannot exist without pain,
that life does not permit us to pick and choose what feelings we
So I notice that browsing Doberman pinscher rescue websites leaves me
feeling a tiny bit better - not that any of them could fill the hole,
of course! I decide to visit one about an hour away, just to
around them and see what I feel. Of course, I will NOT bring
home with me, since that hole could never be filled!
The rest, as you may have guessed, is now history. Though I
that the loss of a human relationship is in many ways different from
the loss of a pet, and that quick replacements of humans are most
likely not wise, I believe that my willingness to feel the depth and
the pain of my loss, rather than suppressing or avoiding the feelings,
has allowed me to move forward in my grief rather than being stuck in
Once again, I feel grateful to you for sharing TTP and its focus on
acknowledging feelings. I experience my life so much more
when I do not suppress and avoid uncomfortable feelings. This
applies to all losses and disappointments, not only to death.
Life is full of loss, and the only choice you get is how to deal with
Thanks also for maintaining this forum for us to share our feelings
with like-minded people.
Jolie and Rosy
you for sharing
I acknowledge that I have a broken agreement in not reporting since the
last Austin Tribe meeting I attend.
I write a report and do not send it. I’m not sure what is going on with
I’m using the feelings that come up right before I decide not to send
in the report as an entry point for my next Tribe meeting.
At the Austin Tribe meeting, I use my reaction to my son’s shoe laces
as an entry point and we go from there.
My son now has lock laces in all his shoes so that he simply pulls up
on the lace to tighten his shoes and no tying of shoe laces is
necessary. Most of the time he puts his shoes in the shoe rack, and,
sometimes he puts them about a foot from the shoe rack. We joke about
how he is so close to getting the shoes actually in the shoe rack. We
laugh and he puts his shoes in the rack. There is no drama.
One of the Austin Tribe meeting attendees begins a process and does not
He contacts me and asks if I am willing to host a Tribe meeting via
Skype. I agree to consider it.
I consider it and am fairly confident that it will not work, and I am
still willing to do it.
I host a Tribe meeting with that person attending via Skype. It works
really well. I am shocked at how well the meeting goes. The Tribe
member’s face appears in almost lifelike size on the monitor and the
speakers are turned up. The Tribe member on the Hot Seat gets
into the process and many new forms appear and the Tribe member
continues through the process and gets completion. I am still amazed at
how well the process works via Skype.
I receive a new request to host a Tribe meeting. I notice feelings
coming up as I read the person’s request for a meeting. As I read the
request, I notice that I share a similar K-not of an unwillingness to
feel feelings associated with vulnerability for fear of failure and/or
I agree to host a Tribe meeting for this person. I wonder what is going
to happen at the meeting.
I have a sense that this person with whom I share a K-not is showing up
to help me work through a K-not that manifests itself as my son’s
untied shoe lace that I use as an entry point at the Austin Tribe
K-nots, shoe laces. . .Skype… who knows what’s going on…I sure don’t,
and I’m willing to see where it goes. I want completion, and I’m
willing to do the hard work to get it.
With love and a bunch of other feelings,
you for sharing
“When the student is ready… the teacher appears”
And when you’re ready to learn anything, having the RIGHT teacher is
more important than having just ANY teacher.
Thanks Ed, for being a very wise teacher all these years.
Whenever I read MW, I remember you fondly.
So many people are thankful to you for all the guidance you have given.
Hugs to you.
acknowledging me and, by implication, yourself.
How can I start my own Tribe?
A few months ago I contacted the head of [City] Tribe, and they
continued to ask me questions for 2-3 months, all repetitive questions,
which I had answered them in the first discussion only.
Every time I would ask to join a tribe meeting, I would be asked those
same repetitive questions which I answered them 2 months ago.
Finally I got
that they are just harassing and humiliating me and I made
know what I felt. I felt like it was closed-inner circle of people
forming a Tribe and they did not want any new members joining a Tribe.
Kindly let me what is the solution to this situation ?
you for raising
You might consider reading my book, The Trading Tribe,
You might also consider noticing the positive intention for your
feelings of <humiliation>.
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