from Ed in Red)
Sat, 22 Nov 2003
May I send you 10,000 and trade it when the trade comes that will fit my
note does not specify the units of measurement for the 10,000.
It does not specify who is to do the trading. It does not define your
might consider SVO-p (see TTP page) and also take your feelings about
precision into TTP.
You Can't Measure It
probably can't manage it.
example: good risk management
with good risk metrics.
Sat, 22 Nov 2003
I really appreciate your talent as well as your friends Michael Marcus and I
believe that you both are incredible market geniuses, so I just need an
advice on the matter of biotechs.
I don't really believe that we have a bull coming up so soon but I have
observed that biotechs are cooking something really spicy.
What do you think
Ed, I know that what has taken you where you are is your silence and hard
work but I just need a tip.
I have a couple of
European big dogs as clients and they are busting my [xxx] all day
LOL, about a couple of biotechs in Canada and the states, they want to
invest big time but I think biotechs are a risky buss. What do you think Ed?
does not endorse traders or commercial products, or offer
instrument-specific trading advice. See Ground rules.
might check your feelings about trading on tips.
here's a tip: If you really like spicy foods and big dogs, you might try
some Tabasco sauce on a foot-long.
o' The Day:
bite off more than you can chew.
Sat, 22 Nov 2003
Ed, do you periodically make enhancements to your trading system (s) or have
you been able to stick to the same system throughout the years once it was
with the trend; cut losses and ride winners; manage risk.
do not know any enhancements.
Fri, 21 Nov 2003
How did you learn to trade?
don't know how to did something. I'm still learning about trading. You might
consider using SVO-p. See TTP Page.
Thu, 20 Nov 2003
Art in Trading
Dear Mr. Seykota,
My understanding of mechanical trend following systems is that they are very
mathematical in nature. By 'system' I also mean a complete methodology which
incorporates various rules such as risk management, position sizing, exiting
strategies ... After so many years of trading markets, do you believe that
there is room for art in such an approach?
We often hear that 'trading is an art'. To me, art is subjective,
circular, and abstract. Mathematics are objective, linear, and quantifiable.
How much of a role does art play in trading?
a mathematician, mathematics is very much and art form.
does not play a role. People play roles, including creating and experiencing
Thu, 20 Nov 2003
Over the last week I’ve been taking my two dogs for long walks and using
that time to concentrate on quieting my mind, experiencing my
feelings and staying in the now. This send is a strange account of bodily
sensations that seemed to come from nowhere and I’m not sure if my
practice of trying to be there with my feelings facilitated them or … well
I just don’t know.
Three days ago while quietly sitting at my dining room table, I decided to
see if I could quiet my mind long enough to experience any feelings that I
was not consciously aware of. I concentrated on just how I felt, not really
thinking about anything, just trying to be aware of sensations.
through a few feelings and trying to amplify them until they went away I
came to one that I had not felt before.
The left side of
my face started to twitch, more accurately the left corner of my mouth
twitched in such a way that it was being tugged back toward just under my
left ear as if I were a fish with a hook in my mouth. Without trying to
amplify the feeling or ‘tug more’ I just let it be and for a while my
mouth twitched as if I had no control over it. Nothing came of it and it
passed away soon after. The only thing peculiar was that it was the first
time I’ve ever felt that feeling and soon after I forgot about it.
Last night I awoke suddenly from a disturbing dream. I will not go into any
of the details, but the dream scenario had me feeling very upset, both angry
and sad. I felt as if I had been manipulated or wronged in a sort of way
when I was expecting love or respect. I remember feeling a little humiliated
and cheated. The dream ended after an outburst of accusation on my part that
was met with ridicule and denial. I wanted repentance and needed caring. I
remember wailing in despair at being so grief stricken after being robbed of
dignity, friendship, and love. It was, as are most dreams, enigmatic.
After I awoke I still had lingering sensations of despair and sadness. I
took the opportunity to try and forget about the dream episode and
concentrate of my feelings.
In short order the
left side of my face took on a grimace that resembled my twitch state three
days prior … albeit without the twitching. My mouth pulled toward the left
side of my face. My teeth were clenched. My left eye joined the mix in a
squint and it felt as the left side of my face was trying to implode. All
the muscles on that side of my head wanted to reach one point so to speak.
My head then tilted to the left and my neck muscles became very tight. It
was quite draining to remain in that position but it was how my body seemed
to want to be. Then I noticed a strange sensation in my upper torso. I know
of no other way to describe this last part except that it was as if I were
wrapped in a saran wrap blanket. I could feel its tightness and relative
coolness on my skin. I stuck with it for awhile, perhaps a minute then my
alarm clock went off and the episode ended.
I have no idea what any of this means. I can create theories I guess to
back up how I feel but if you are right about the process being derailed by
CM then the thing to do would be to relate the experience to a tribe and
work it through with TTP.
If you have any insights or suggestions as to what I may want to concentrate
on please feel free. The weirdness of it all has certainly piqued my
TTP does not necessarily make sense, until the end, around the AHA
point. Having it make sense during the process is optional, sometimes
all makes sense now.
20 Nov 2003
I would like to start an intentional community in Cracow, Poland. I noticed
some interest from Polish traders here on FAQ. Feel free to hand them over
my e-mail address if they wish. Any practical help for starting a Tribe
would be appreciated.
In my opinion, a good way to show the Tribe process would be a video file (avi
or mpg) from the Incline Workshop which you could distribute to committed
are on the Directory Page.
Thu, 20 Nov 2003
TT - Dunstable
29, 2003 New England Tribe
Sent this a while back, hoping you have the time to respond.
There is not a community listed on your web site near me. I would be
interested to find out if there are other traders in my area with a desire
to be involved in a Trading Tribe community.
I live in
Dunstable, Massachusetts, about an hour north of Boston on the New Hampshire
border by Nashau, New Hampshire. I have been trading futures since 1994 or
95, stocks since 1977. I occasionally go to a MTA meeting in Boston, but
mostly stock investors there. Let me know whatever you can and even if there
are not interested parties in my area please keep my name and info on file.
Wed, 19 Nov 2003
Just checking in with you. I've been making a lot of progress since we
"met" last week. I discovered that I often choose to live in
fear rather than experience excitement. I learned that I have been
staying in a boring job as a bookkeeper for most of my life because I have
been wanting to feel safe. I'm now accepting that feeling and am feeling
capable of embracing the idea of trading (without my safety net). I'm
getting on with making a transition into a new way of living.
I've ordered a trend following course, been reading your FAQs every day to
learn more about learning. I've ordered some books from your reading list.
I'm almost finished the Market Wizards and I read Atlas Shrugged 10 years
ago and loved it. I since discovered that my parents were horrified that I
embraced the philosophy in Atlas Shrugged and realized that I must be doing
something right with my life! (-:
And I've had a miracle or two occur this week. When I last wrote you,
I stated that there seemed to be an absence of successful female traders in
the world. I decided that they are probably out there; I've just been
looking in the wrong places. The next day, I met a woman in the financial
section of the local bookstore and I noticed she was reading a book by a
well-known trader. I took the risk and opened up a conversation with her. It
turns out she lives in a gold mining town in Australia and buys shares based
on what she sees going on around her. I told her I was learning how to be a
commodities trader and we shared some ideas. At the end of the conversation
she said I had already gone through the worst part of it: I had survived
being a beginner and I was still trading with a positive attitude. We
exchanged email addresses and promised to stay in touch. It was a wonderful
Thank you. My life is getting more exciting as each moment passes.
Wed, 19 Nov 2003
TTP Practitioner License
I am very interested in using TTP to help people become better parents.
Could you fill me in on what is required for a Practitioner's Licence?
me a one-page description of your intention.
Wed, 19 Nov 2003
November 7, 2003 Insights
Dear Mr. Seykota,
I would like to follow-up on an e-mail I sent to you. I am writing an
article on whether or not traders should balance their trading plans with
their financial plans. Your insights would be of great interest to me.
This is my very first article for publication and would appreciate your
thoughts into this topic. Please let me know your level of interest in
Once again Mr. Seykota, thank you for your time.
does not tell people what they should do. See ground rules.
you wish to balance different plans, you might first determine how much they
you wish to write, you might have a look at Strunk and White's Elements
to Weigh a Plan,
yourself with the plan,
then without it
compute the difference.
Wed, 19 Nov 2003
The Trend and
How do you determine a trend without the use of time?
As an example, the price of ABC is $50 ... the past does not exist, I am
only concerned with the moment of now.
price of ABC is in the now. The average price of ABC is in the now. You
compare them now to find the trend now.
that you get to choose what kind of average price you use, so
"trend" only exists as your choice. There is no inherent
trend, now or ever.
Trend is Your Friend
at the ends
Wed, 19 Nov 2003
Last night at our [xxx] Tribe meeting I brought up an issue I have been
dealing with for about two months. It involves COMMITMENT ... and my beliefs
emanating from how I define the word and how I apply it in my relations,
both business and personal.
I am committed to
the Tribe meetings. I am committed to a minor hockey league here in Ontario,
my son’s teams – both house league and rep./select. I am the Assistant
Coach of one team and Trainer of the other. All GTHL teams (rep.) must have
a licensed trainer on the bench during games or they will not be allowed to
play. They depend on me ... or no game!
disappointing / letting down, not only your son, but 14-15 other kids, his
friends/teammates and even coaches and parents. Furthermore, I am on the ice
with both teams during their practice sessions, on different days. I love
it!! Very rewarding ... enriching and fun! Smiles and laughs between the
How do I attend a Tribe meeting - - - that I am committed to -
while we have a hockey game - that I am committed to??
This question has
been “hammering” away at me for a while now. It has caused me some
stress and some sorrow, what I THOUGHT had come from the conflict of
timetable involving both events. It came from the way I viewed commitment,
what commitment was to me, what it meant that others depend on me and,
basically, what it meant in my life ... how it FELT, keeping it and breaking
it. That has changed!
My hot seat started with a pain in my temple, a burning sensation. It
traveled to my heart. Two bands, thick and elastic-like, were on both sides
of my heart - the contractions felt normal but not when it expanded. It
wanted to “break free.” With help from the Tribe it did just that ...
"a breakout”! I suddenly felt air, oxygen, lots of it. I felt like I
was falling. I WAS!!!!!! I was falling from a height, I don’t know ... a
building, the sky or from some tightrope, whatever. I was falling quickly
and felt all this air hitting my face, my ears and so on. I felt that I was
suspended in air…..off the floor in the room! Truly amazing. AHA!
I feel purified, cleaned up today with reference to dealing with these two
commitments and how I FEEL regarding breaking them. It is not as big a deal
if I have to break commitments, even if they involve the Tribe or my duties
in the hockey league. It was before! As important as these two associations
are, I am comfortable with any difficulty interfering with one or the other.
So what! Get on with it!! Keep learning and growing.
I couldn’t help but think of this quote (just had to find it) from another
Master - - - entitled Purification:
The Master insisted that what he taught was nothing, what he did was
His disciples gradually discovered that Wisdom comes to those who learn
nothing, unlearn everything.
That transformation is the consequence not of something done but of
Ed. Thank you for what you offer us.
All the best!
about multiple commitments often arises from double booking. You can avoid
this by conscientious calendaring, or by having an identical twin.
such drama persists, you might continue taking your feelings about keeping
commitments into TTP.
cover appearances for each other
get you into twice as much trouble.
Wed, 19 Nov 2003
I have scrapped the idea of using options for a trend following trading
system for the present. I have made some modifications to my futures trading
system that have improved the results. I had a couple of errors in my
previous system ... one was averaging down ... the other was not buying when
volatility was low.
Would you know of anybody who is looking to trade money against a new
are very few people who want to trade systems that are still on the drawing
board as many in your target market are already waiting on line to take
rides in untested aircraft.
being new and different
not make it right.
Sat, 15 Nov 2003
I still haven't heard from the two people in Australia affiliated with you.
I have an idea. When you train people to give your course, could you let me
know if anyone wants to do a course in Australia? I could help set it up
over here in Melbourne. I imagine there were be a lot of enthusiasm for what
By the way, when is your book coming out?
group has its own ground rules and admissions policies. Consult the
individual contacts for details. See Tribe Directory Page.
book is in process, watch these pages for publication notice
Tue, 18 Nov 2003
That's very true. E-TTP has a lot of limitations. CM is under almost full
control while one is writing.
I live in the country, in a small town.
I have been
already criticized by one e-TTP contact for trying to set up a tribe here,
as he deems it impossible.
possibility of getting one member to set up the Tribe, but I still have to
talk to him. I cannot expect people around to get to know about this project
by themselves and I also don't want to entice them to join it. So my
choices are also limited.
Meanwhile, I have been doing the best I can with e-TTP. I basically grasp
the concepts (as I am dealing with a logical channel as you say) and then
try to let it happen (TTP) in the Process of my life itself, esp.
relationships and trading. Then I report back.
I am very aware of the limitations, now that I am working with intimacy,
closeness issues. Again I am exploring my feelings in my relationships and
in life itself. I feel I am making some progress, slowly evolving to a
deeper sense of community.
E-TTP are like crutches I might soon leave behind. Yet it is something I
needed and, possibly, I still do (even if just reading your FAQ), esp. for
daring to achieve something seemingly impossible to many.
Thanks for your support.
might check your feelings about criticism.
Tue, 18 Nov 2003
Observation's from NY's
I don't quite trust my words to adequately describe our experience this
past Saturday. Perhaps, in time my conscious capacity will catch up to the
depth of feeling. For now, some general observations follow:
Dreams may come -- We gave dream development both on Saturday and in
the weeks leading up to it considerable time and attention following an
iterative process described in a previous post.
No dream came
easily. Some could not come at all, as if the dreamer could not in the
moment allow themselves a dream; yet even this led to something from which
they could continue the work of the day.
articulate a heartfelt and emotionally charged dream but became overwhelmed
with sadness at the seeming disparity between their lives to date and what
they imagined possible.
Many found through
the process that what they thought they wanted paled against what their
unconscious revealed to them. God, I admire these people.
provided deep support and respect for each individual's process of
discovering what they needed to discover; while not letting anyone do
anything less than they could do.
without exception, every participant embraced that seeming paradox expressed
by Admiral James Stockdale reflecting on his experience in prison camp
during the Vietnam war
"You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -
which you can never afford to lose - with the discipline to confront the
most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they may be."
-- Jim Collins in Good to Great
Goals -- We applied a similar iterative process to developing goals and
witnessed broad differences in the time frames and reach of the goals that
emerged. Again, we witnessed real changes from where people started to what
they developed, all of this supported by an intersection of individual and
group intention. We developed ample material for Hardball.
Hardball -- Sometimes quietly reflective, sometimes terrifyingly intense.
Some worked through legions of "judges", others grabbed onto the
first feeling that presented itself and held on for dear life until... sated
the feeling evaporated leaving a subtle change in expression - an
un-erasable smile or a twinkling eye.
shakiest with the entire process or least confident in themselves
unexpectedly demonstrated profoundly effective sending and receiving skills.
Lots more work to do. We now have more tools to do it. We continue Wednesday
evening at 7:30.
As I walked home at the end of the day, New York seemed more vivid,
richer in detail, and more alive than I remembered it from my morning walk
to the session. Same New York, perhaps a different man.
in New York
ol' same ol' ...
Clip of Derek
Sanderson Jeter - Short Stop:
Tue, 18 Nov 2003
Question and Thanks
for Ten Years
have you read any of the Jane Roberts / Seth books? if so, and you
don't mind sharing what you think, I'd like to know how do you feel and
think about what's
Ten years ago you made some powerful suggestions to me. you help me change
my life by showing me a new way to think. everything's much better. thank
you for your help!
speaks through Jane Roberts and seems to say things about how our personal
metaphors tend to come true: "You create your own reality ... you get
what you think about."
speaks through Jane Roberts from 1963 until 1984, when Jane passes away.
you are in poor health, you can remedy it. If your personal relationships
are unsatisfactory, you can change them for the better. If you are in
poverty, you can find yourself surrounded by abundance ... Each of you,
regardless of position, status, circumstances, or physical condition, is
in control or your own experience. -- Seth
us believing physicists, the distinction between past, present and future
is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one. -- Albert Einstein
for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours. -- R.
try to teach a hog to sing. It frustrates you and aggravates the hog.
Mon, 17 Nov 2003
Still More TTP
more TTP 4 kidz
Hi Ed !
Regarding your suggestion to validate [my wife's] suppression teaching
We have a nice
discussion where I explain how in tribe meetings we carefully look for an
entry point to get past the conscious mind, and the whole process. I
compliment her on how well she installs these emotions and suppressions. She
laughs as she sees her own judge which tells her this is a good way to
So tonight, [my son] is doing homework at the desk in my office. He says he
has a painful headache at his right temple. So here we go ! We process
this feeling, and he says it goes away after some minutes. Then he falls
into a deep sleep, same as during the first processing last week.
I tell [my wife] about [my son], and she is very interested now. She wants
to learn the process. I explain how it works, and we work on neck and
headache, which she says reduces from a 10 to a 4 on a scale of 1-10.
comes up in her throat and we work on that. We encounter a few judges not
willing to feel these things. Though there is movement, recognition,
acceptance, we don't get to complete clarity.
She wants to
sleep. She says it is hard work. We do a little check-out.
So I guess we are now ...
a TTP family !
Family is the Essential Tribe.
Dogs With Glasses
Mon, 17 Nov 2003
I started reading FAQ approximately 1 year ago and back then you gave me the
directions that made me find my own way. People say: "friends are the
ones who give without expectation to get something back". Well, it was
exactly what you did to me. I'm truly grateful for your teachings and I want
to say that what you taught me with only a few sentences not only changed my
approach to trading, but to life itself.
I will continue to be loyal to my feelings. Thank you very much, my friend.
PS: The other day, I was watching TV and I remembered this person's e-mail
"I have read
about you and many others that what I consider gifted in their endeavor. I
have been working on this."
If you allow me, I
want to share an interesting point of view about gifted people,
accomplishments, the "now moment" and trend following:
It's Johnnie Walker's trend following system:
That slogan means a lot of things.
Thank you, Ed
Johnnie Walker notices, circa 1820, that the flavor and consistency of
whiskey varies greatly from keg to keg. Using his tea blending experience,
he begins blending his own whiskeys to improve consistency. He begins
producing private blends for special customers.
Walker, Whisky Trader
in the Black
in the Red
Mon, 17 Nov 2003
Position Sizing 11/12/03
Dear Mr. Seykota,
Your comment "Repressed feelings can masquerade as logic" is a
very fitting description on me.
For about a
month or so, I have noticed my tendency to analyze instead of feeling, and
even put this thought in my journal.
I have brought the
issue of not feeling the feelings to TTP (or more precisely if intention =
results, not intending to feel even consciously I am saying I want to feel).
While I can "feel" emotions such as sadness, disappointment,
frustration and etc.
I find it
difficult to have physical feelings such as tightness, tension. Temperature
and color are also not easy to detect. From your experience in the workshop
or from your tribe meetings, did you encounter participants also having
similar difficulty in having physical feelings? If so, did you do anything
to help them get more in touch with their physical feelings?
As far as your suggestion to run computer simulation, that is actually what
got me to ask the FAQ question in the first place. I ran simulation using
strongly trending stocks to see what kinds of results the method would get,
and I found the methodology (as explained in the FAQ on 10/16/03, adding an
amount equal to paper profit divided by difference between current price and
stop price when stock trends in favor) provided excellent (paper) profits,
but all would evaporate as soon as the stop is hit.
In any case, thank you for the reminder on the positive intention on stops.
I think I am now able to see my original problem from a different
good receiver can facilitate the flow of feelings. Receiving is making a
space into which the feelings flow.
Get Water to Flow
a Space For It
goes for feelings
you find yourself in a hole,
Sun, 16 Nov 2003
The Right Time
I just read Market Wizards by Jack Schwager and I was fascinated by your
interview. I'm a beginner trader just starting out in the forex. I seem to
be able to keep my emotions under control but I can't seem to get in at
the right time (buy or sell) and I think I use fundamentals (or funny-mentals)
too much. Is there any advice you can give me concerning the forex? Thank
is no particular "right" time ... there is not even any time ...
there is just the never ending moment of now.
is a convenient illusion. You can't feel it and you can't measure it
"right time," perhaps you mean that, looking over historical
charts, you can see higher and lower prices than your trades. Perhaps
you want to have the feeling of being "right" or "wrong"
and you associate being "right" with trading at highs and lows.
straighten all this out, you might consider joining a Tribe and taking your
feelings of wanting to trade at the right time, into TTP.
Right, Some Not so Right
counter-clockwise, that is)
Sun, 16 Nov 2003
Dear Mr. Seykota,
Thank you for putting forward the CM-Fred framework. Such are the fleeting
and slightly uncomfortable feelings that Fred sends me, my usual automatic
reaction is to sweep them away.
TTP FAQ, I wonder if I would pay sufficient attention to ever appreciate the
significance and preciousness of Fred in my life time. So thank you!
I look at my two beautiful little daughters and wonder how they can make
friends with their Freds sooner and better than I have. My 2-year old seems
to have no problems expressing her feelings naturally. She cries when her
feelings direct her so. She smiles and laughs a lot too. Her Fred is well
accepted by my wife and I. There is no judgment. She is young and we don't
try to use our CM to reason with her.
My 4-year old has a much wider range of perceptions and feelings. When she
expresses her feelings in the adult world, not all of them are as readily
accepted. When there is an altercation, we try to use our CM to
"educate and reason" with her Fred - her Fred reminds us too much
of our own Freds to be allowed to see the light of day.
Tantrums are met
with reason, not validation of feelings. Worse yet, we sometimes use more
devious means to subjugate the expressions of Fred. Say, using the lure of a
reward if she "behaves well" or the threat of punishment such as
"there will be no book reading tonight if you continue to behave like
this". No wonder kids grow up not knowing their own Freds at all. A
systematic childhood conditioning of avoiding and alienating Fred is
I suppose that the evolutionary benefits of ignoring Fred - spending less
time being introspective and more time scanning the African plains might
have saved some of our ancestors from a lion or two. But it seems a large
price to pay now.
I venture to be an apprentice receiver of the two precious young Freds in my
two daughters. I think that to the degree I listen, acknowledge and embrace
the good intentions of all that is Fred, I invite Fred and CM to flow
together. It surely is better than unknowingly making Fred a millstone
around CM's neck.
Thank you for your wonderful generosity. Fred and trading success aside, if
I can be of more use to my two daughters, it is priceless.
Very best of regards.
Commitment to growth and to listening to children, both generate waves that
reach far and wide.
shore to shore
mouth to ear
heart to heart
Sun, 16 Nov 2003
Dear Mr. Seykota Sir,
I am from Mumbai, India.
I was so happy to read about you today. I first read about you in 1997 in
Market Wizards. I fell in love with your cool approach to things. You made
Unfortunately I was wiped out somewhere in 1998 and have just rejoined the
market this month after putting my life in place.
All the time which
I spent in this "exile', I always dreamt that someday I shall return to
the markets and trade like Ed Seykota. What a lovely omen that I am able to
make contact with you at the onset of my second stint in the Markets. I
really feel thrilled. When I saw your photo, I was finally able to make
contact with you.
I shall like to do my best to spread the message of the The Trading Tribe
in India, if we have your permission.
We are currently conducting corporate training programs in Spoken
English, and this has been my savior. We are trying to add value to peoples
lives here, through Language training. Trading is something which I have
Do reply back. I shall feel great. Even if we are not eligible to start
the Trading Tribe, the fact that I got a reply from the great Ed Seykota
will itself make me so much more happy, and committed to the wonderful
lessons which you gave in your interview in Market Wizards. If you ever
visit India, do let me know.
gracious note honors this site.
you have permission to spread the message. See Ground Rules.
implies someone choosing you. You might take a look at your feelings about
working through community
create healthy choices.
Sun, 16 Nov 2003
Yes I have some trust/intimacy issues. It is time to welcome and celebrate
these feelings. I am tracking underlying feelings in current relationships.
I have trouble getting intimate with groups and relationships, and I feel
some unease about it. I get some jolts in the linings and guts, resolving
into some heat all over the abdomen.
I would like to explore more of these feelings about
trust/closeness/intimacy and share with my group. This coincides with my
current willingness to get our group closer, and, perhaps, even assemble a
"physical" community. So, I propose that we arrange a virtual
meeting with Microsoft Messenger, in that all of us co-operate to send and
receive. In about two to three weeks I will finish my last year in college
and so I will have more time and freedom to schedule a weekly meeting at a
convenient time. Meanwhile I am restricted to Saturdays or Sundays.
Nevertheless, if you feel we might get e-Hardball going by e-mail, for our
current task, as suggested by Amir, we might switch roles now. Incidentally
this is quite relevant to my current task about intimacy/closeness/trust and
Hardball we focus on one feeling at a time. When that feeling completely
passes we switch roles, then when its your turn again, the question is
asked: What stands between you and account funding? Then you work on the
next feeling that comes up. So as we go back and forth you keep on working
down the stack of feelings. However only one feeling at a time.
So, in your case you outlined two feelings
1) the idea of this achievement rather scares me
2) I am afraid of losing my freedom
Lets just focus on one feeling perhaps as Andy pointed out feeling #2. So
please share with us what does loss of freedom feel like or as Andy said
Experience the loss of freedom. What happens?
Once you report back, [xxx] and I will go back and forth with you until this
feeling dissolves, at that point you will say 'pass'
After this feeling is completely resolved, we switch roles, you become the
receiver and perhaps Andy the sender. ( Andy if you could work on your goal)
I am working with this task about accound funding. I try to locate
underlying feelings about achieving this goal. I do not feel comfortable
about this change. I mean, the idea of this achievement rather scares me. I
can feel it like a light pressure or tension in the stomach area, linings
I also acknowledge I need help from other people to achieve this and other
goals in my life. I dislike receiving help from other people and I shrug it
off. I even feel rather sick about it. It feels like it threatens my
freedom. Yes, I am afraid of losing my freedom if I receive help from other
possible limitation of e-TTP is that it does not allow the immediate
communication of emotion. Another is that it communicates emotions
through logical and motor channels.
difference between e-TTP and TTP might be like the difference between
learning to ride a bicycle over the internet and learning to ride a bicycle
with your father.
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