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June 21, 2011

Austin Tribe Summary


The Tribe was a great experience. Over the course of the 10 sessions I learned a lot, about myself and the methodology of your systems. Since the day I met you I have learned and grown a lot. I cannot thank you enough for the time we spent together. I have met a lot of smart people in my life, and you are on a whole different playing field then the rest.

I want to thank the rest of the tribe for their support and commitment. The journey was fun and hope to stay in touch with everyone in the tribe.

Thank you for sharing your process.

June 21, 2011



Over the preceding months I practice the DIM process and not surprisingly get DIM results.  I commit to using TTP to reach right livelihood and help others reach their right livelihood. 

I have attached the tribe information document.  Please let me know if you require any other information. 

Thank You


June 21, 2011

Returning Home

Dear Chief,

I hope you are doing fine with the World Tour, Ranch, Book and weight. I am writing to offer my help with reviewing / checking your book, I love reading in general so I am sure I will enjoy this.

I will be back to [Country] next Sunday, I am very excited about the possibility of starting on my own, I am afraid although I am sure I will succeed. I would like you to consider me into your new project of helping emerging traders, since I am on my own right now, I am in a position to accept your conditions and I am excited about that possibility. If you are interested I can send you more material about what I have so far. If you don't think we are a good fit maybe you can help me develop my system at least.

I want to use this email to thank you again for everything you have done to me, I have learnt a lot from the whole experience and feel much stronger now to face everything that might arise in the future, I have no words to describe how thankful I am, I hope I can help people in this way in the future (without trying to control them).

Talk to you soon.


June 22, 2011

Missing Sections

Hi Ed,

I was wondering where I could get information about the missing components in the trading systems project.

I am interested in all areas but mainly these: dynamic portfolio selection, dynamic risk modification, pattern recognition.


Perhaps you might like to help create them.

June 23, 2011

Austin Tribe Update

Hi Ed,

How is your meeting in Chicago? After our conversation, I feel I make quite a lot of progress on beginning to "fly". Thank you for the insights and support you share with me. I notice it feels like a trance at some point in the  conversation. I make progress on system development that is uncharted before this time...I feel really excited.

I plan to go back and forth to spend more time with my children or they may be coming here more also.

Do you have any immediate plans regarding your ranch?


Austin Trading Tribe Update

I notice I come to the last tribe meeting of the series with feelings of sadness that it is the last meeting. I enjoy the walk before the meeting over the farm and down by the creek. A tribe member brings up a difficult circumstance to apply TTP and the tribe works on the issue. The tribe member’s father does not really want to pursue an intimacy centric relationship and enjoys discussions centered around politics/business…a facts based relationship. I relate to this situation in my own relationship with my father. I find myself with the same feelings of frustration. Feelings come up for me of moments of intimacy with my father growing up but it is mostly just about playing catch…no words, just a ball going back and forth. I notice it feels like acceptance and connection…just playing catch. The tribe sets up a drama and the tribe member practices applying resources until he is comfortable. I notice feelings of wanting more when I am faced with limited intimacy and acceptance that that is OK seems to keep me in the systems model vs. shifting to the control model. Another tribe member brings an issue regarding his relationship with his wife. She has given birth recently and undergoes post-partum depression, emotional swings, etc… and when she gives him a terse request he finds he shuts down. We rehearse the drama and almost every tribe member attempts to model intimacy with his wife…many crash and burn. There are only a couple of tribe members who are really able to model the intimacy model fluently in the face of PMS/post- partum gone wild. It is an enjoyable process and I learn a lot from this most difficult of circumstances that is modeled. The tribe member…after many tries…succeeds at connecting in an intimate fashion. We share our progress on our project and our feelings about the goals process. Appreciation and gratitude is shared for each tribe member and especially for Ed and his willingness to support each of us during the many processes. I feel extremely grateful for the opportunity to participate in the Austin Tribe and for the willingness of each tribe member to share so much of themselves. I find myself feeling very sad about the ending of this tribe session. I notice ongoing feelings or insights related to the breathwork process we did during this tribe session. During the breathwork process Ed describes breathwork as TTP on steroids and I agree wholeheartedly. I find, for me, that many issues are locked away ever so tightly in my subconscious mind and breathwork seems to open many hidden things that need to be healed. After breathwork I feel some “mind meld’ with the instrument I am trading and increase my account over 200% in a relatively short period of time. After the run up I then turn around and give much of it back but learn some valuable lessons in the process. I begin working on some system ideas and after reviewing the system development area of the website some things begin to click in my mind. Thank you so much Ed for your kindness, friendship and love that you demonstrate to all of us in tribe. I appreciate very much the model of manhood you share with all of us and I thank you also for showing me the love of a true father and chief. I want to thank each tribe member again…you guys really worked hard and I gleaned so much insight and my life is so much richer for having this time together.

May God richly bless each of you.

Thank you for sharing your process.


June 24, 2011

Chicago Conference

Hi Ed,

It was great listening to you and Larry Hite speak at the MFA forum last week. Thank you for answering my question about the doubts that arise when a system goes through a period of large drawdowns.

I am currently in Tulsa, OK and wanted to ask if you have any suggestions about how I could attend a TT meeting somewhere in the US before the end of July. I will be moving to São Paulo, Brazil in August and would really like to attend one or more meetings in the US before I go.

I have designed and tested a system I am happy with but seem to have hit a block taking the steps that are now necessary to turn that system into a real fund. I imagine that taking my feelings about manifesting the fund to a TT meeting would be an immensely productive and revealing experience.

Though I am in Tulsa, I would be very willing to travel anywhere in the US to meet with a group that you think would be receptive to having a one or two time ‘visitor’.

Thank you for any advice or suggestions you may have.

Warm Regards,

You can check the Tribe directory and / or start your own Tribe.


June 27, 2011

Helping a Friend

Dear Ed,

A Tribesman calls me by phone. He is very troubled after meeting a girl and developing a strong fondness for her. She shows interest in him, but after awhile she tells him that she is in a relationship and not willing to risk it.

The Tribesman feels betrayed and powerless. I listen at the phone, just receiving him and sincerely wondering what is the problem. He realizes that the real feelings are sadness and frustration about not having her.

He mentions that the intimacy and physical contact with her were beautiful, and that he would like to spend a lot of time with her. I ask him if he can imagine the feelings of fondness and closeness as being just feelings and not as a part of him. He can.

Then, I mention that maybe he can let both feelings flow and stop attaching to them. He cannot; he is afraid of losing the feelings. We both see that he is attached not to the girl, but to the feelings that he likes! I suggest that he can accept his fear of losing the feelings. As he does, the feelings flow. He laughs. As we hang up, he is not troubled at all about the situation. The whole talk lasts maybe 10 minutes.

It seems to me that kindness, understanding and acceptance can heal people. What a discovery...

Ed, thanks again for being there when I need to tell someone that I feel troubled, insecure, afraid and overwhelmed, even at 4 AM.

It would be a huge pleasure to see you again and help you with whatever task you consider. But I don´t know if you like the idea.

Thank you for sharing your process.


June 28, 2011

Chicago Presentation


I attended the MFA conference last week in Chicago and wanted to thank you again for the time you took on the panel to share your wisdom on trend following, your history, and for answering some of the random questions presented.

I am always amazed at how people complicate the most simplistic of things. People are baffling and the human mind even more so. Given that I am a native Kentuckian, I also appreciated the sound of your banjo and loved the way you put it to work in the Whipsaw song.

Having read a number of items written about you and of course following you over a period of time, it was a real treat and pleasure meeting you. Not sure if you remember me or not, but in the hotel lobby following the panel discussion, I invited you to dinner. The lady that was alongside you indicated you had other commitments and unfortunately it would not be possible, but I would nonetheless like to again extend the invitation.

Myself and a couple of my partners would be honored to make the trip to Austin, at your convenience of course, for a visit and for any amount of time you might be willing to give us. Our motive is simply to spend time with a person we admire who has been successful in a world we spend great amounts of our lives in. I was taught sometime ago by my father that seeking counsel and spending time with successful people is critical in achieving success.

Please let me know your thoughts on a visit and whether it is of any interest. I would also be happy to share with you any information you might desire to inform you of who we are.

Thank you kindly in advance for taking the time to read this.

Thank you for your invitation.