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10, 2015 Tribe Meeting Results - from Lonely to Full Ed, I'd like to share some results from a recent Tribe Meeting - during which I work on loneliness issues. Almost immediately after the meeting, I notice things changing. Friends start dropping by for a visit - and to connect and catch up on each others' lives. The connections seem unusually caring and open. Surprisingly, I also get a lot of invitations to go out to parties and events. I even have to decline some offers on account ofhaving a full calendar. I find myself meeting new and interesting people, almost effortlesly. Best of all most everyone I meet seems open and kind. |
Thank you for sharing your process - and results. | |||
| Dec
10, 2015 Tribe Meeting Results - Calm and Connecting Ed, I wish to share results I see showing up in my life after the Tribe Meeting. Upon arriving home I feel surprise at the level of calm and peace in my home. Weekend afternoons are usually hectic, with lots of excitement for me and my young children, and occasional bickering and whining by all. I feel delight to learn my son, who sometimes likes to hide and act shy, chooses to recite a passage in a large group. This occurs after our Tribe Meeting, and before I return home. Not surprisingly, my main issue at tribe involves "hiding". On weekdays I usually shut myself away in my office to work. Completely out of fashion, I invite a family member to visit and share feelings about a dispute. I view our meeting as a gift. Previously I view it as an interruption in my work day. I notice sharing feelings about the dispute "takes a load off" and help me work more effectively. I find myself with a new, deep desire to receive and share feelings with everyone I encounter. I call on several prospective clients today. The thought is "who else can I call" rather than "ugh who else do I have to call". I sense my own healing just by receiving their feelings. As I receive, the same feelings in me pass through and get set free. Sincerely, |
Thank you for sharing your process - and results. | |||
| Dec 9, 2015 How To Start Ed, Thank you for your response. I am near [City], how do I go about taking my feelings about <actually starting to trade> to Tribe as an entry point? Thank you again. |
Thank you for raising this issue. You might consider reading through FAQ to get an idea how the system works. You might also consider reading The Trading Tribe - see Resources, above. |
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| Dec 8,
2015 Standard Deviation - from Trading Ed, I hope you are well. Do you have any sites you recommend for use of standard deviation in trading.? also- do you think becoming a Chartered Market Technician would make a big difference in trading? Thank you for your help. |
Thank
you for raising this issue. You might consider taking your feelings about <actually starting to trade> to Tribe as an entry point.
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| Dec 7,
2015 Post-Tribe Jam Ed, I feel a surge of warmth in my face and my eyes get watery as I think about how much kindness you show me over the years. From very first time we meet almost seven years ago, you show very deep caring about me and my feelings. Thank you so much for inviting me into your home again, hosting the Tribe meeting, breakfast and dinner. And thank you for jamming with me, and inviting me to the Wimberley Jam. I feel warm and welcome at the jam, and it really lives up to your description. I plan on sending a full Tribe report before the end of the week. I already notice changes and still feel very much in process. Please hear Whipsaw Song Norwegian Wood Lying Eyes Wah Wah Wah Blues for our recordings. I really enjoy & might have to "borrow" your lick around 1:12 on the Whipsaw Song. Yours Truly, |
Thank you for attending the Tribe Meeting and for sending me the recordings of our post-Tribe-meeting musical meanderings. | |||
| Dec 6,
2015 Tribe Report - A Healing Hug Ed, I come to the meeting with a lot of motivation - and support from friends who suggest areas for improvement - and from my sister who encourages me and helps me recall some of our early family dynamics. I take the Hotseat with the issue of wanting to have have great a primary relationship. The PM asks me to show the form of wanting this. I hunch over in my chair and extend my arms out in front of me, reaching for someone, finding nothing but air at the ends of my fingers. I begin sobbing. The PM encourages me to go deeper. I notice a longing to connect with my mother. The PM asks me to recall an incident and this takes me right back into my childhood. When I open my eyes I see my Tribe members, now in roles as my mother, grandmother and grandfather - and all sitting in the room in front of me. My grandfather teaches me that the way to deal with the women in the household includes saying some form of "yes dear" and then doing whatever you want to do instead. He also shows me how to shut down my feelings and to appear to not care. By example, he seems to direct me to treat women with suspicion and disdain. I tell him I appreciate that he wants to inform me and to protect me - and that I'd rather use a different method, namely: establish rapport and share feelings. Then we get to the main event, including me trying to get some affection and caring from my mother. I try various strategies to get affection from her. Nothing seems to work. Seeing my frustration, the PM jumps in and offers to model it for me. I accept his offer and watch as he tries to get affection from her, alternatively demanding affection, pretending not to care and following after her. He winds up angry and expressing frustration. I say, "Wow, you got it. You got how I do it." I consider his showing me how I do it a huge gift, full of insights. With this information, something clicks and I know what to do. I reach out to my mother and ask her to hold on a minute and to let me know she cares about me. She says, dismissively, that of course she does - and then adds we have to run along now and do some errands. I connect with her and look into her eyes and I say I want more; I want her to help me feel, in my heart, that she cares. With that, she approaches me and gives me a hug and tells me that she hears what I want and that she does not know how to do it. She says that she would like to to learn how to do it, working together with me. Then she gives me a hug and tells me she loves me, her son. At that point I begin wailing. I stand there, feeling her arms around me, soaking up the hug I can now feel after a lifetime of longing for it. The hug seems to go on a long time, quenching a long-standing thirst, like rain finally falling on a dry desert after decades of drought. I feel complete and I feel something long dormant starting to grow in me. I also know the hug works both ways and helps to heal her, too. After that hug, I feel quite different - like in a trance - and I still feel that way. Lately, friends report that I seem more accessible and more supportive and less critical of them. I have a sense that, finally, after all these years, I have some idea how a relationship and affection might all fit together. And, incidentally, I get another benefit. I notice much less interest in getting close to people who do not have the ability or desire to help me feel, in my heart, that they care about me. I thank my Tribe and my PM for running this process with me - and my dear friends for helping me see areas for improvement - and my sister for encouraging me and helping me recall our family dynamics. |
Thank
you for sharing your process.
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| Dec 6,
2015 Tribe Report - Five Hotseats Ed, At our recent Tribe Meeting, all five participants arrive ready to take the hot seat, by agreement. I would like to report, briefly, on the five processes while I still have them fresh in mind - and follow up with more details later. The Spanking Hotseat complains about his inability to lose weight. We follow his forms to a critical incident in which his father spanks him - and scolds him for making a mess. Hot seat shuts down and learns to stuff his feeling of anger and resentment. Through the process, Hotseat learns to establish rapport with his father and to ask his father how he feels. His father accepts the invitation, stops beating his son and stats communicates his frustration heart-to-heart. Hotseat notices he no longer has to use food to stuff down his feelings. The Model Hotseat complains about her difficulty in receiving gifts and her frustration that people don't say what they think. We follow her forms to a critical incident in which Hotseat tells her mother that she wants to grow up as a fashion model. Her mother scolds her, telling her she doesn't have enough height, beauty or brains to seek that career. Hotseat cries, curls up in a ball and goes off to her room and falls asleep in her bed. Through the process, Hotseat learns to establish rapport with her mother and to ask her how she feels. Her mother tells her she only wants to protect her daughter. Hotseat explains that she wants her mother's support in exploring interesting life choices and in having adventures. Her mother comes around to support her daughter in developing her own sovereignty. She hugs her daughter and tells her she actually finds her very beautiful and intelligent. Hotseat notices she can establish open and honest, whole-heart rapport and intimacy with all her family members. The Waitress Hotseat complains about people who agree to do something and then let her down. We follow her forms to a critical incident in which her father yells at the dinner table - and throws objects from the table around the room, occasionally hitting someone with the projectile. Hotseat busies herself with trying to clear the dinner table, in order of the most dangerous items first. Through the process, Hotseat learns to establish rapport with her father and to ask him how he feels. Her father tells her he feels frustration about his relationship with his wife and no longer needs to act out violently with his daughter. Hotseat notices she can establish rapport with her business associates and align whole-heart with them, to accomplish objectives. The Closet Hotseat complains about his inability to raise new clients for his money-management business - despite having an excellent track record. We follow his forms to a critical incident in which Hotseat, fearing beatings from both his father and mother, hides in a closet and waits. Through the process, Hotseat learns to establish rapport with his parents and to work with them to keep the house tidy. Hotseat realizes he doesn't have to wait around in fear of his clients - and that he proceed at once and focus on establishing rapport with them. The Barber Shop Hotseat complains about his inability to sustain a loving and supportive relationship with a woman. We follow his forms to a critical incident in which Hotseat, waits, in a barber Shop, for his mother to pick him up and take him home. When she arrives, she looks at him and momentarily engages eye contact. Neither of them show any sign of wanting to go first to recognize the other - perhaps some kind of power struggle. Presently, she exits the room and leaves him behind, to walk home - which he does, defiantly. Through the process, Hotseat comes to learn to reach out first and establish rapport with his mother. She tells him she has many things to do and can't wait around to play games. He tells her he wants her to help him feel she cares about him. She confesses she doesn't know how to do this and that perhaps they can work together to help each other learn how to have a better relationship. Hotseat realizes that he can go the extra mile in establishing rapport with his woman - and to make her feel safe in learning and in building a relationship together. He also realizes in cases in which people do not demonstrate willingness or ability to engage an intimate, rapport-centric relationship, he can, respectfully, release them to go their separate ways. |
Thank
you for documenting the meeting. You might consider checking back in a week or two to report any changes you see showing up in your life. |
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| Dec 5,
2015 Childhood Trauma and Addiction Ed, I feel happy hearing from you in this moment of now. I wonder if you might be familiar with some of the work done by Gabor Mate on addiction and the connection between childhood trauma, the chronic "medication" of feelings (especially anger) and disease. I wonder if you ever consider sharing the Trading Tribe Process with a wider audience. I'd love to attend a TTP Workshop in Europe. |
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you for raising this issue. In TTP we hold that during critical childhood events, a child learns, from role models, how to shut down to avoid pain. Later on, this shut-down response pattern (Rock) comes to shape, even dominate, his life. In TTP, we return the client to such critical events by encouraging him to experience the associating feeling and forms. Then, while the client has deep emotional access to his Rocks, he also has an opportunity to fore-give these Rocks back to their donors - and to replace them with the Heart Rock that motivates the establishment of rapport and constructive exchange of feelings. After this process, the client generally finds himself behaving differently in stressful situations - and getting different results - all without having to remember the process or to follow conscious advice. Per your wonder if I plan to take TTP to a wider audience: As I work through my own issues and develop more understanding and compassion for the human condition, and more effectiveness in conducting the process, I may, at some point, engage a project for wider distribution. |
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| Dec 5,
2015 Spontaneous AHA Mr. Seykota, Last week, while I was visiting an old friend the funniest thing happened. During one of our conversations, I had a "aha" moment. While its hard to accurately explain in words, I had this great and powerful inner feeling in my chest that seemed to almost follow my spine. It was at this moment that I realized what I honestly wanted to do with my life. Prior to this, I honestly had some conflict, so it felt great to finally sort it out. Also, recently I realized how one of my negative emotional charges is affecting me in other area's of my life. I'm happy that I am finally fully aware of this deeply seated issue and I am excited to work with it. I hope you and the Tribe Community are well, |
Thank you for sharing your process. | |||
| Dec 3,
2015 Projecting Disbelief Hi Ed, I am very confused. Why people just don't believe me about trend following? Even my dad...Actually he don't think any kind of trading can make a living in the long term. I showed him my past 2 years trading Chinese futures market result, already total 80% for the 2 years period. But he still hesitates to believe me. This summer, I took my dad to USA for travel. In the mean time, i showed him my card counting in Reno, Nevada. I told him i did a lot of work on testing my card counting strategy on computer simulation and i had proved my strategy real time while i was in US for study. And he did not believe me can gamble for a win until he saw me won real money in Rail City, and Western Village. Even after that, he told me not to be too confident about blackjack. So, I have a question: am i gonna be disbelieved by people for my whole life? Why people don't believe things that they don't normally see people succeed? Best wishes |
Thank
you for sharing your process and for raising this issue. You might consider taking your feelings about <nobody believes me> to Tribe as an entry point. Once you metaform* this feeling from an adversary to an ally, you may notice yourself projecting this drama onto others with less frequency. * Metaform: to transform something by viewing it differently. |
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| Dec 2,
2015 Tribe Report - Sister Simultaneity Ed, Hot Seat (HS) arrives at the meeting, hot, ready, and willing to work. HS begins by reading correspondence from HS’s sister. I feel awe, amazement and jealous at the depth of understanding and feeling shared through her correspondence. HS shares feelings of loneliness, rejection and smothering with the Tribe. The HS describes a history of “not being good enough” to parents and companions. A tightness begins in the HS’s throat as these feeling become more intense. The HS is fully willing to feel these feelings and really gets into it. The Tribe is in full support. The Process Manager (PM) asks if the HS can put a smile on the feeling. The HS does not like the feeling. The PM and the tribe begin saying “That’s the best rejection we’ve ever seen.” The HS smiles and laughs. The HS shrugs and says “It’s just a feeling.” During the process, the HS becomes comfortable with the feeling of loneliness and states that loneliness is peaceful. The HS also feels the feeling of smothering and becomes comfortable with this feeling as well. I am impressed at the HS’s ability to get into the feelings so deeply so quickly. At the conclusion of the meeting, a feeling of openness fills the room. After the meeting, I read a text message that I receive from my sister during the meeting. She shares strong feelings with me, is open with me. This is very unusual. The TT process is amazing. |
Thank you for sharing your process and for documenting the meeting. | |||
| Dec 2,
2015 Wants to Join a Tribe Hello, I'm interested in joining a Tribe and learning what the Trading Tribe is all about. Can you please direct me on how to get involved and learn about meeting in the Connecticut area? Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks, |
Thank
you for raising this issue. You can check the Tribe Directory for a Tribe near you. You can read The Trading Tribe. You can start your own Tribe.. See Resources, above. |
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| Dec 2,
2015 Should and Right Livelihood Ed, I take my snapshot of a creating a “self-sustainably scaling” enterprise to tribe. The Tribe challenges me by sharing that they think this is not really my snapshot or ambition, and that I am (as they observe in prior instances) “playing with concepts in my mind.” They ask me what feelings come up and I share a fear of “letting go.” This becomes my entry point and the tribe encourages me through the Forms Process. As the forms dissipate, I realize that many of my thoughts, including that of creating a “self-sustainably scaling” enterprise – are around what I think I “should” be doing. What I feel clearly (near the zero-point) is that I actually like working closely with people – helping develop the younger consultants that join our firm, and also being involved in delivering project work to our clients. I like building a strong foundation for our enterprise and believe providing a place where people can do the best work of their life - in a balanced way - is more important than how many people work with us, or how many clients we have, or how much we grow our revenues (so long as we can profitably sustain ourselves). Wanting more (or rather, doing what I think I should be doing), seems to take me away from not only enjoying what I have, but also … not even seeing what is right in front of me. Thank you for receiving my process. |
Thank you for sharing your process. | |||
| Dec 2,
20156 From Rejection to Affection Ed, During a recent Tribe meeting I experience feelings in my throat that I don't like. My Process Manager helps me to like them and to see their positive intentions. I come to see I have a deep and subconscious pattern in which I train my mate to withhold affection from me and, ultimately, to reject me. I come to see this as a rock I inherit from my parents. Upon further meditation and discussions with friends and family, I see how I have a lifetime pattern of getting myself into this situation - and that I also have a full-time career trying to "fix" the problem by trying to get my mate to want me while simultaneously pushing her away. I now see my desperate and obsessive attempts to get affection as just more setup for the deeper game. I see the only way to win this game - involves letting it all go and not playing anymore. I also see the resources in the Heart Rock in a different way. Previously, I artfully employ "establish rapport" and "share feelings" as tools to carry out, with more efficiency, my push-pull drama. Recently, I see the difference between using these resources as tools and really living by them. As I learn to release this game, I notice some other changes: 1. I do not feel a need to follow my usual method of quickly replacing my mate with someone else with whom to continue the game. 2. I feel a release of tension and an ability to focus on other things, such as my health and on my job and on maintaining my friendships - and on getting to know myself better. 3. I feel more at ease with people in general and more of an overall feeling of contentment. 4. I become aware of other tendencies I use to distance myself from others - such as by feeling superior to them - so I guess I might have some more work to do. 5. I see my parents as doing their best and not trying to harm me. I no longer blame them. I no longer blame ex-wives or girlfriends. I might also guess I have a lot more to learn about getting along with others. So far I have some indication that if I stick with it, it might just work out pretty well. I wish to thank my friends, family and Tribe Members for supporting me in having these learnings. |
Thank
you for sharing your process.
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