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Feb 21, 2017

Mumbai Tribe Report

Dear Ed,

It has been about 4 months since I have become a part of the Mumbai Tribe in India.  It has been an exhilarating experience to witness and participate in the processes.

The Tribe is now getting more effective as increase in number of senders and receivers is helping everyone experience more from the processes.  Currently we are doing the goals setting process and it was an insight for me to actually learn that how difficult it was to set a goal.  We have been doing a number of rocks processes and I also did two of them.

In the last meeting, I set a goal for myself to make a certain minimum amount of income each month through non-trading i.e. through software development/consulting projects.

It has been amazing to share but the next morning I received an email for a project from a prospective client.  It may have been co-incidental, but I think there is some kind of a magic working its way.

Other than the software work, in the past week I have collaborated with someone and we are launching an online training course, which is also likely to result in some fixed stream of revenue.  I had never visualised this to happen so fast.

Just wanted to thank you for the great momentum you have created through the TTP.

Thank You
Thank you for sharing your process.
Feb 18, 2017

Reducing Capital


I was thinking about what you said about relevant events two years ago.

I believe my capital was raised from running 800m to then to 1.3bn and now at 1.5bn over this period.

It sounds perverse but I have come to the decision to ask management to reduce my capital back to 800m.

Whilst I make a direct % payout and it seems I am almost halving my income, I hope I will feel a lot less pressure and perform better and start to enjoy it again.

After a long period if I can get comfortable again there is nothing to stop me moving up the ranks again in the future.

Hope this makes sense and still look forward to your book arriving.

Thank you for sharing your process.

You might consider whether the pressure you feel comes from the capital or from inside yourself.

You might consider taking your feelings about <pressure> to Tribe as an entry point.
Feb 17, 2017

The Secret

Hi Ed,

Im a trend follower and use a 11 ema 56 ema moving average crossover system....i find this system works well for me...and the secret to trading is compound over time...alot of people dont realize this but its true..

do you agree

Thank you for sharing your secret.

Another "secret" for you: Trading mostly has to do with exercising character.
Feb 16, 2017


Hi Ed,

Haven't seen any new posts recently, I hope you are well and everything is okay :)

Best Regards,
Thank you for checking up on me.
Feb 16, 2017

Trading System Comparison

Hi Ed,

I looked at the Chartbook section of your site today and have some thoughts / questions come up.

I wonder if you are trading both a buy the dip style system and a trend following system concurrently.
If you have willingness to share and are trading both styles of system,  I would love to hear about the feelings that come up for each of the two system styles and how they differ or overlap.

I notice that it looks as though the trend following system will catch the better trades produced by the buy the dip system.

I think of you often and hope you are well!

Thank you for raising this issue.

The Chartbooks show patterns and do not represent full trading systems with position sizing and risk management components.

In general, buying on strength outperforms buying on weakness.
Feb 14, 2017

Strokes of Brilliance

Hi Ed,

I have been trading futures for 8 years I have strokes of brilliance mixed with stubbornness and sabotage. You could argue, same goes for anyone. I would counter with the brilliance is uncommon.

I'm not the only one that has recognized my talents, but my results are poor.

To me you have a mind that is brilliant like mine, of course it's not a competition or a comparison just a familiarity.

For that reason it would be a pleasure to correspond / interact. For that matter it not need be in person, in fact often communication is more honest in text.
Thank you for reaching out to me.

You might consider continuing to interact on these pages.
Feb 13, 2017


Dear Ed,

Six months ago, in August 2016, I attend a special Austin Tribe meeting. One of the conditions of this meeting is a commitment to submit a one-week and a one-month report. I am sending an additional update six month on.

My issue going into the meeting is my frustration with my career. The form that I develop in the meeting is "I am in the wrong place." We take
it to refer to my employer, or my boss. My month-later report is that everything continues without change.

Six months later, my relationship with my employer has come to an end. I come to believe that the "wrong place" is wider than a particular company. Silicon Valley is the wrong place for me. For 14 years, I try to convince myself that this is where I belong. The Valley changes. It values social justice over private enterprise. It values orthodoxy over
diversity. As recently as 1988, a Republican presidential candidate can carry California. Today, California is a one-party state that rejects
all dissent. In 2014, a mob shames the CEO of Mozilla out of office over a $1,000 contribution to a conservative ballot measure. Silicon Valley
today has more interest in promoting its religion than building technology that works.

I accept this change. I support the people of California in running their society as best fits them. I also accept that I am in the wrong place. My wife calls me "a closet Texan." I call for a personal #calexit

We make plans to move to Houston where we have family. It occurs to me that with the sale of our house, we can afford to fulfill a longtime dream before we settle down in Houston. We plan to put our belongings in storage in Houston and buy a bigger sailboat. We plan to cruise the Caribbean for a year.

If you still maintain your residence in San Juan, I would like to call on you and acknowledge there you when we land in Puerto Rico.

Thank you for sharing your process.
Feb 12, 2017

Short-Term Trading

Hi Ed,

I am a short term trend follower. I trade currency futures. I mostly rely on super trend indicator, but a lot of the times I get confused whether to follow 5 min, 1 hour or 4 hour or 1day  trend as which would be more suitable trend.  I end up not following the trend and incur losses what should I do?

My background( I am 26 years old, I dropped out of college after my sophomore year due to financial trouble I was studying electrical engineering, since then I have been doing mostly mean jobs and last 1 and half years, I am trying to trade, and last 5 months I have started noticing trend, I have been trading to come out of my financial hardship and stand tall)

Thank you for sharing your process.

You might consider taking your feelings about <financial hardship> to Tribe as an entry point.


can also serve
as another form of self abuse.

Feb 10, 2017

Business Plan


As of today I have a simple trend following system coded and tested in Trading Blox.  Within the next few weeks i hope to code and test a longer term system to pair with the first one.  I also have a rough draft of a business plan.

I want to open my fund this year and have at least one investor besides myself by 12/3/17.  My desire to spend more time at home with my family drives my plan.  I do not like coming home after working 8 hours with little energy to play and teach my son. 

If my fund does well within the next 7 years I intend to leave my job.

I respect your opinion and the experience you have with markets and business partnerships.  I want to know if you are willing to review my system & business plan and offer your critique.  I want your opinion on how I might improve my system and areas I may consider focusing on, and any items I fail to address.

Thank you.
Thank you for sharing you process.

I can post my reactions to short emails here in FAQ, for free.

I can also involve myself more deeply as my schedule permits.  See my consulting terms at Ground Rules, above.
Feb 9, 2017



my girlfriend is pregnant. It is exhilarating. Life gives me a second chance to create a family based on love.

Thank you for sharing your process.
Feb 8, 2017

Embracing Negative Emotions

Hi Ed,

Lately, I've been focusing on embracing and truly feeling my negative emotions. I have already seen a significant improvement in my life and trading.

Hope you are well :)
Thank you for sharing your process.

You might consider holding emotions as useful messages, without classifying them as positive and negative.
Feb 8, 2017

Some Questions


here is a page from my journal i thought you might like :)


I hear the question all the time echoing from the depths of my subconscious mind.  It almost seems to come from another spiritual force or the universe itself.  I freeze every time I hear it, paralyzed at the prospect that I will want something that will bring me pain. 

What should I want?

What will bring me happiness?

Is happiness the most important thing?

Am I meant to question so much?

Will questions get me closer to happiness?

Is happiness the most important thing?

Will I come to answer if I keep questioning?

Are answers more important than questions?

What is the ultimate question?

Would I understand the answer if I heard it?

Would my life be better knowing the truth?

Does truth even exists?

Is our perception of existence flawed by our limited ability to sense reality?

Is reality in our mind?

Do I make reality with my mind?

What determines the minds creative potential?

What is a desire?

Is desire a choice?

Is choice an illusion?

Do we have a fate?

Are there many possible outcomes?

Are multiple dimensions possible?

Do they exist simultaneously?

What is time?

Am I wasting time with questions?

Do I even want to know?

Is that a desire?

Do I desire to want?

Am I moving further from the truth now?

Should I keep on going?

Will I know if I become enlightened?

Will I become enlightened when I realize the truth?

Do I already know the answer?

What was the question?

What do I want?

Am I already content?

Will meditation make me more content?

Is desire really counterproductive to contentment?

Is satisfaction the same as contentment?

If I desire satisfaction, will I ever get there?

If I become satisfied, will my desire fade?

Is want and desire the same thing?

Do I want to want?

Will I be content if I decide to want?

Can this get any more confusing?

Do I desire satisfaction?

Am I already satisfied?

Will I cease to become motivated and prolific if my desires are met?

Are my feelings valid?

Is questioning ok?

Is being too ambivalent a weakness?

Will I ever come to a conclusion?

If I do, will it be valid?

What is the difference between conclusion and opinion?

Is there any question I haven’t asked?

Do I want the same things now as I did when I started questioning what I want?

Am I any closer?

Is this all just part of the process?

Is the process necessary?

Will I get what I want even if I’m not aware?

Are some questions better left unanswered?
Thank you for sharing your questions with me.

You might consider taking your feelings about <searching for answers> to Tribe as and entry point.
Feb 7, 2017

New Portland Tribe Meeting Report

Hi Ed,

We recently held the first meeting of our newly formed Portland Tribe.  There are four of us and we all came together through your website.  Since it was the first time we had been together we spent the first hour getting introduced and becoming
acquainted with each other's trading interests and expectations for the Tribe.  We found common ground regarding the tribe as an avenue towards right livelihood while at the same time finding the common ground of all of us being mutually horrified
at the prospect of the hot seat.  When that time comes I anticipate an episode from the “goofy gophers”.  “You go first!”.  “Oh no, I couldn’t think of it!  You must go first!”. 

None of us have been to a Tribe meeting or a workshop so we relied upon the book as guidance throughout the rest of the evening.  To help set some structure we used a timer for each step, except for the drumming because it was set for AM instead of PM, which once we realized we were well past ten minutes gave us a bit of a laugh. Where’s our Chief!?  What was interesting though was that even at this first meeting the drumming started out as kind of a cacophony and after a time settled into a beat, a rhythm.

Following the drumming we did the check-in, sending and receiving thoughts, sending and receiving feelings, and sending and receiving forms, each step with some initial awkwardness that quickly diminished.  Interspersed with some breaks by this time we had exhausted the evening and exhausted ourselves and decided to call it a night. To conclude each of us shared our thoughts about the previous few hours with the rest of the group and then we talked about establishing as regular a meeting schedule as possible given other demands on our time.

I think the first meeting was a success.  We know we need to establish a Chief and to that end a couple of us have discussed attending a Tribe meeting in another city.  We would also like to invite any experienced Tribe members from other parts of the country to join us should they be traveling through Portland.

Thanks Ed for the book and the ongoing FAQ’s site.  We’re breathless with anticipation. Well, maybe not breathless, but we are hopeful that our Tribe can achieve some of the same results experienced by other Tribes.
Thank you for sharing your process.
Feb 4, 2017

C# Reference


I'm learning programming in C#, I follow your Trading System Project and I have done the two systems that appears in a spreadsheet program.

Now, I use the spreadsheet program to clarify the system development in C#.

I suggest you to add a C# book in your web.

Hope everything is well,
Thank you for raising this issue.

I have a number of physical books on C# in my library and rarely consult them.

Mostly, for coding issues, I consult Google; for example, "C# pass arguments to another application," brings up many ideas and code suggestions on the topic.
Feb 2, 2017

Wants Parameters


your `stock`charts are very useful for my watch list - thanks a lot :)

What kind of screener and parameters do you use for the `stock`charts?

Some years ago you have offered three different `stock`-Charts; short- medium- and longterm charts. It would be nice if you could tell me the parameters for that?! (I`m using Finviz)

best regards
Thank you for raising this issue.

I post the charts as a generic example of trends, both up and down - with no recommendation to buy, sell, hold or stay out.

You can generate a similar chart set by sorting on  strength and weakness.

I do not publish the exact algorithm.
Feb 2, 2017

Trading Cycle

Dear Ed,

The City of London tribe continues to meet on a monthly basis. I attended my 6th meeting last week.

I would very much like to visit the Austin Tribe and learn more about TTP and how you run your meetings. If you ever happen to be visiting London you are welcome to attend a meeting with us of course.

Since beginning TTP in August 2016 I notice a few changes / have a few insights.

    I have a better read on other peoples body language.
    I notice that some parts of my personality that I do not like seem to be similar to my mother and fathers character traits. I also notice that a lot of feelings I do not like come up when I interact with my cousin.
    I am increasingly more aware of my thoughts and feelings.

I took up TTP with the goal of using it to improve my trading performance. I have noticed since then that I am more comfortable running positions for longer period of times. Before, I perhaps would run a position for  1 day at most. I had a trade that lasted a month in October 2016.

There seems to be no sign of improvement in any performance metrics yet.

There is a pattern in my trading that I have been aware of for a number of years. I would like to change it, but so far I haven't figured out how to. It's about draw downs...

I seem to have a pattern where I don't stick to my process and take a few losses or miss taking trading signals; then I tend to close myself off to others, its like I resist them some how.

I usually then take a large loss, which can be up to 10x what my risk parameters allow. I feel the frustrations that come along with this, but they fade pretty quickly. After this I usually have 1 or two more large losses until the pain feels unbearable and finally I come to accept the loss. I seem to know when this happens now. I feel different....... and I begin to make money again.

Even when I can see this process unfolding before me I seem unable to change course. I seem to be going through this process right now.

I've never explored these issues in the TTP environment. Usually by the time the next TTP session occurs, the feelings I have about this issue have faded into a distant memory and I have no desire to explore, or I find that I cannot bring up these feelings.

Thank you for sharing your process.

You might consider taking your feelings about <frustration> and <unbearable pain> to Tribe as entry points.

Frustration, medicinally, can help cover up deeper feelings.  Frustration, pro-actively, can indicate a change in direction.


can have a positive intention.

Feb 1, 2017


Hi Ed,

I currently sit in Bali with a few friends who find interest in TTP. I wonder if you have a PDF format that you can send me.
Thank you for raising this issue.

You may download from this site, for free, a digital image of TTP Extensions, that summarizes recent advances in the Rocks Process.

You may order the book, The Trading Tribe, that appears in hard cover.
Feb 1, 2017

Feeling a Shift


I want to share a part of my process I find very emotional.  While listening to music my thoughts wonder to some really awful scenes.  As these thoughts pass a deep sadness washes over me.  My thoughts wander to abuse I suffer. 

I feel shame and embarrassment I do not fight back.  I see the little boy that blames himself.  I try and console him but he continues to beat himself up about shutting down and not standing up to his abuser. 

I sense a fight between my parents where each blames the other and seeing this I again blame myself and my sadness continues.  I sense the deep sadness and anger my father feels for not protecting me against harm.  I relate to this as I have a young son myself.  I feel my mothers pain as I feel she beats herself up about my abuse and my sadness continues. 

It's as if the music leads me through this sadness.  I feel overwhelmed by the emotion.  I see how my abuse affects others.  I feel immense shame to say as a 10 year old I perpetuate this cycle with a younger sibling.  I find myself weeping and asking everyone involved (parents, siblings, God) for forgiveness for shutting down, for causing pain and arguments between my parents and for hurting my sister. 

I feel small. My sadness feels deep and engulfing. In the past when I feel sadness about injustice I shut down because I feel I cannot do anything, I feel there is too much wrong and hurt in this world. 

I now feel a shift.  I feel no matter how small the good I do compared to the bad in this world it still counts for something.  I feel I can help tip the scales for good.  Thank you.

Thank you for sharing your process and for taking a stand on behalf of yourself and others to stop the cycle of abuse.
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