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Ed
Seykota's FAQ
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September 30, 2018
Demanding Father
Hi Ed,
I recall your practice of scheduling tribe in response to demand. I want to register my demand.
I want the Tribe's support with issues that are coming up for me around the imminent birth of my son.
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Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your feelings about <demanding things> to yout Tribe as an entry point.
You might also consider contemplating what you would like your son to learn about relating to others through demanding things.
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September 28, 2018
Super Markets
Good day Mr Seykota
I don't know if you read all the emails you receive, I can just imagine it must be thousands.
I
am rather new to trading. I'm actually a medical doctor in anaesthesia
practice, and have only started reading and practicing trading in
December this year.
I'm reading Covel's book and have just finished the section on you.
Therein
you state that every trader should first look at the basic literature
otherwise he must confine his trading to the supermarket!
Could you perhaps point me in the direction of the literature that you would recommend?
I enjoyed the piece about you and marvel at your success.
All the best!
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Thank you for sharing your process.
I
don't recall telling anyone what they "should do." I do sometimes
go so far as to suggest someone "might like to consider" doing
something.
The basic literature you might consider studying: Reminiscences of a Stock Operator; The Crowd; the works of Perry Kaufman; the works of Jack Schwager; Heal Your Body by Louise Hay; The Trading Tribe & Govopoly both by me.
Also
you might learn an application programming language such as C#, Python
or Java in which you can carry out your own back tests. For
starters you can use a spreadsheet.
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September 21, 2018
Money and Happiness
Dear Ed,
I hope you are well. I notice that you have not updated FAQ's in a while. I hope all is well with you.
The London Tribe continues to grow, we usually meet on Monday's now. I have attached an updated information sheet.
This year, I feel like I haven't gotten anything out of TTP. I don't mind turning up and running the Tribe, but I wonder why I still do it sometimes.
This
year has been particularly challenging for me trading wise. I have
found it very difficult mentally. This feels like the worst year ever.
Yet when I turn up to a TTP session, nothing really comes up. A little frustration, that's all.
I'm
much better off financially now then I was when I started TTP. All
things considered, the quality of my life as improved immensely. Yet I seem to consistently feel miserable. I know this because I journal daily.
Happiness is what I really want consistently, but its not what I get, no matter how well trading goes, or any other parts of my life.
I
really have questioned many times this year if TTP really does me any
good. Has it actually changed my life for the better? Have I moved
towards right livelihood? I don't know.
I
have meditated, sat down and calmly had an objective look at my life
since starting TTP. My net worth has increased considerably, that was
my objective when I started TTP. But I cannot say if the quality of my trading has increased. Perhaps it was just good markets? My happiness is no different. I feel lost.
Have a nice Autumn Ed,
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Thank you for sharing your process.
Traversing
the existential void with TTP presents interesting challenges as
the path features a multitude of potholes all hungry to capture the
ankles of the unwilling.
Passage generally requires the
services of a very skillful process manager, one who accepts (and even
enjoys) the feelings of <emptiness>, <nothingness>, <not
knowing>, <lost> and <miserable>.
When you notice these feelings appearing as path
markers, and when you come to enjoy them with gusto and with a broad
grin, you may also come to appreciate the void as a deep well spring of
creativity.
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September 21, 2018
Ed Shows Up in a Kitchen Dream
Hello Ed.
I had the weirdest dream ever.
I
was asleep and woke up having heard a noise in my kitchen. I walk down
half expecting to be jumped and and beaten to death but i see you sat
there in my kitchen. By the table.
I can't believe me eyes.
At first i am shocked and ask what the hell you are doing but you kind
of smile and say "You know why.....you want to ask me some questions"
You
remind me of the god like figure played by Morgan Freeman (obviously a
white version) Like an oracle that has all the answers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FngXOUxklR4
So
i start asking you about trading, risk, returns, life etc...and you are
so clam and calculated in your replies. Never giving me direct answers
but kind of letting me answer my own questions.
For
example i ask how many stocks you hold in your portfolio and you tell
me that is irrelevant. First decide what it is you are trying to
achieve and work form there not the other way around.
You
then tell me i am taking on too much risk in the hope of huge gains.
Whilst this can be done it's not the best way to try and achieve you
end goal. You then give me a great example of driving to a holiday ...
do it slow and safe enjoyable or go fast and risk crashing.
So at the end of our god like talk i say "You know what you have told me I already knew but why didn't i follow it?"
I then look back at the table and you are not there.....were you ever?
I
woke up and everything kind of hits me like the Titanic hitting ice.
There is no need to take on such big risks. Stop trying so hard. Relax,
take your time, enjoy life. You don't need to try and make so much.
I
am not sure what triggered this dream off but it has lead to a
different approach. Not sure you did an "Inception" kind of plant in my
mind.....or it was my subconscious getting through to me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPy88-E2zo
But thanks for the advice.
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Thank you for sharing your process and for including me in your dream.
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Sep 13, 2018
TTP and Conventional Therapy
Dear Ed,
I’ve
recently made enquiries to join a Trading Tribe in London, and replied
with answers to the two embolded questions below. Having just sent off
the email, it occurred to me whether you have come across the resources
detailed in the links below, and whether these might be of interest to
other tribe members.
Sincere thanks for such a
profound contribution, and I must also take the opportunity to pass on
my thanks on behalf of my 9 year old daughter for the whipsaw
song!
Kind regards
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The Application Questions and Answers
I wonder what you intend to get out of Trading Tribe meetings? I
work as an NHS GP, and the interest I have in mental health and in
optimising my own head has been really helpful in my therapeutic work
with patients. I've become interested in practical philosophy, and
secular Buddhism. I undertake 20min daily meditations over the
last few years, and I'm now starting to develop a sense of who I'm
supposed to be, and Right Livelihood. I hope to continue to optimise
through TTP, collaborating with likeminded people in the TTP group. I'm
sure this will help me professionally and personally.
From
a medical perspective, I'm fascinated by the various means to the same
ends which I've come across over recent years and I've found reading
Michael Singer's Unthered Soul really helpful,
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Untethered-Soul- Journey-Beyond-Yourself/dp/1572245379/ ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1536867141&sr=8-1 &keywords=untethered+soul
and have found Matthieu Richard's scientific work on meditation inspiring.
https://www.ted.com/talks/matthieu_ ricard_on_the_habits_of_happiness
Ed
Seykota is clearly quite brilliant; it's incredibly impressive that he
came to the realisation he did with respect to the cartography of the
mind concept, let alone how to tackle k-nots in the manner he has set
out in the process. The medical profession are just starting to catch
up with these ideas, particularly with the more extreme k-nots
associated with post-traumatic stress, and therapeutic strategies which
encourage collaboration between Fred and conscious awareness.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Body-Keeps-Score- Transformation-Trauma/dp/0141978619/ref=sr_1 _1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1536867226&sr=1-1 &keywords=the+body+keeps+the+score +by+bessel+van+der+kolk
I've
no doubt that TTP works and appreciate the rationale for it from my own
experiences as an interested clinician, and I'm certain of the impact
of therapeutic group work. I've an understanding of the therapeutic
consultation as part of my day job, and receive about 6,000
patient-agendas a year, so don't think receiving will be a problem, but
I think I might need to get used to sending. I am very open to the
experience and the process; contributing, learning and developing Right
Livelihood with the group.
I see trading as simply a
testing ground to see whether one can achieve mindfulness, equanimity
and non-attachment irrespective of circumstances. I've made some
definite progress in this respect, but appreciate that I am still
acting out some unresolved k-nots. For many years I’ve seen myself as a
frustrated fund manager/investor, but I’m hoping to continue to lose
ego and attachment to become more proficient as a trader; very early
days here.
Could you please describe to me in your own words your understanding of the TTP process?
My
understanding of TTP is that the meetings provide a safe therapeutic,
collaborative environment in which participants can express and resolve
uncomfortable subconscious emotions/forms which traditional talking
therapies don’t really understand and cannot access. Reading the
extension, my understanding of the Rocks process is that recurring
maladaptive automatic/unconscious attempts to self-medicate emotional
reactions can be addressed and replaced with a more therapeutic
response and solution. Some of the maladaptive responses to stressors
might be alcohol, drugs etc, and others might be maladaptive parental
responses to situations, which have been picked up and learned in
childhood.
I hope I’m on the right track with this.
Rather difficult to answer, as it feels a bit like trying to drive when
I’ve only done the theory test. I’m sure TTP needs to be experienced
for some time prior to being encapsulated in any description.
Kind regards
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Thank
you for sharing your process and for exemplifying how some key TTP
concepts might appear in more formal therapeutic language.
As
you continue with your work, bringing it into the conventional
therapeutic framework, I would like to hear, now and again,
more about your process.
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Sep 8, 2018
Wants to Walk the Path
Hello Ed Seykota Sir,
This
is a letter from a great fan and ardent admirer of yours. It’s not just
an email but a letter from my heart with a lot of hope.
It’s
been many days since I have thought about writing this letter to you.
But daily I would be somehow convincing myself that tomorrow I shall do
it. Maybe it’s because I was not able to figure out the right words
that shall lay my story across to you, right words to express the
burning desire in my heart.
Because if indeed, by some magic
twist in my fate, this letter does reach you and you happen to go
through it – that might lead to the biggest turning point in my life.
So, Ed Seykota Sir, if you are reading this letter by yourself, this is one of the happiest day of my life.
However,
Sir if you are not Ed Seykota Sir himself but his representative, can I
ask one big favour from you to pass it on to him. I know maybe you get
such requests from thousands and it’s a daily affair given how big and
popular Ed Seykota Sir is and I am no special case. But Sir, maybe if
you do so, it might open a world of opportunities for me and many
others whom I too someday might be able to help.
TO ED SEYKOTA SIR
Hello Sir.
My
name is [Name]. I am 25 years old. I am from a very small town in the
North-East part of India. Yes, you have fans in this corner of the
world too.
I, here in this small town of mine in India, sit
and wonder all that a human is capable of achieving if only he thinks
he can. But I also know the unbelievable amount of hard work, pain,
struggles and failures you must have had to overcome to reach where you
are now. I bow my head in respect to you, sir.
I am a small
trader & have been trading for 4 years now and I dream to make it
big in the trading world someday. With great respects, Sir, I aspire to
be like you one day. I don’t know the how part of it but I am sure, you
as every other man who became great, did not know the how part of it
when you all started.
In pursuit of the path I tried to
reach out to everybody I admired from Michael Marcus to Richard Dennis
to George Soros to Christopher Rokos to Ray Dalio and many others. Yes,
I did land up with broken email addresses and never heard a word from
them, but I really have been trying with all my heart to do all that I
can to be what I believe I can be.
Yes, I am not a big
trader. Nor do I have a big account, nor do I live in country which
encourages trading. Yes, I do fail on these counts. But I believe with
all my heart I can be one of the best traders in the world. Trading is
something I love with all I have, a place my heart belongs.
And
I did everything that I could all these years with the limited
resources I have to get the money to start trading with a bigger
account. Yes, I didn’t go the Job route as I felt that would not do
anything for my growth & rather I might get comfortable in a
mediocre job with a pay cheque coming at the end of the month, that I
might get forever stuck in my comfort zone and never take risk in my
life again.
So, I decided to raise money the Entrepreneurial way. That seemed interesting and gave me the kick I am so thirsty for. But as life would have it, one after the other, venture after venture, all failed.
My story is not of someone who wants an easy way.
I have literally done all that I could possibly do, worked day and
night last 4 years for the dream so dear to me that one fine day I
shall have the big capital to trade and make it big in the trading
world.
Sir, here I need to share a bit of my story of my
failed ventures. I know I am taking up a lot of your precious time
& I am so sorry for that but Sir, do read the letter till the end
and then decide do I deserve a reply from your end. I shall be forever
grateful.
I started off by trying to start a Second-hand
clothes recycling company in India on an organized scale and export to
Third world countries such as Africa, Kenya, and others. Roamed the
country to make contacts and set it up, worked the hell out but somehow
it didn't work out.
Failed.
Again, made another
plan to import Wipers made from Recycled clothes and supply to
factories across North East States in India and worked day and night
visiting so many places but again it didn't work out as it required a
big capital which I didn't have.
So, failed again.
Then
started a Grocery Delivery business in my town itself as it was a new
concept back here but again it too required big capital to manage
initial costs of marketing and creating customer base and so slowly
sales dropped and I had to close it.
Failed.
Thrice
I had heartbreakingly failed but I didn't once feel that I am doing
anything wrong sacrificing my well set out career of getting a job
& settling down but rather taking the hard road not knowing where
it shall lead me to.
I made another plan to open a Pizza
Restaurant in my town as there were no Dominos or Pizza Hut here. So
again, made all arrangement, learned to make Pizza from everywhere I
could and after 3 months of hard work, the day I finally planned to
purchase a Pizza Oven and generator and take up a shop, you won't
believe, that very day Domino's opened shop in my town.
Failed and Heartbroken again. No matter.
I
realised as I had already researched about the food business during the
Pizza Restaurant Idea, I rather planned to open up a Food Delivery
Restaurant as our town had no restaurant doing deliveries. I took a
loan and opened up and go a great response but I had this time started
it with a partner and as I had limited funds I could afford just one
head cook.
I suppose life was not on my side again and
somewhere down the line, I started having clashes with my partner and
the head cook too started to disappear now and then and we had to keep
out shop closed. It slowly ruined our reputation and after a year I had
to sell it to someone else. But it was a success on my learning curve.
However, Failed yet again.
All
the heartbreak for the love of the markets. Yes, it might sound stupid
now as to why I did all those but at that point of time, I saw these as
the only way I could raise money to trade as well as learn to be an
entrepreneur as I believed one day when I shall become a great Fund
Manager like you managing billions, all these lessons will help me out.
Yes, I know it sounds foolish now but it didn’t occur to me back then.
So heartbroken but yet still fighting.
I now with no business and a small trading account, thought ‘Let me do something to raise money on the Trading field’. So, I planned to write a Book with all that I have learnt about trading for the beginners in a very fun and amusing style so as that even a layman could understand the basics of trading.
So,
I set out day and night to make this happen believing that maybe this
Book shall be the key to launch my trading career. So, sat down for 6
months straight, working day & night to make the book happen and
finally did it. Launched it straight to Amazon and self-published it
for the Kindle version and sat down hoping that this time I shall crack
it. Everyone I showed the book to was impressed.
But
disaster struck again when I realised that the book was not available
to the general kindle which most people own but only available for
Kindle Fire tablets as my book was a complete colour book with lots of
illustrations. Wow. I couldn’t believe it. So, no point marketing the
book on kindle as people won’t be able to read it. Thus, took it off
from Amazon as it was having very few sales.
What to do, I
thought let me try my hand reaching out to traditional publishers and
get my book published as a Paper Back Version. Sent my book across the
country to all publishers I could reach in India and as you have
rightly guessed – No one is publishing the book. Some of them even
called me up to say the book was really nice and they would have sure
taken it up had it not been a colour book as it raises the cost of
printing many fold and they can’t take the risk with a colour book that
too a 350 pages long book.
So, Failed yet so ever again.
(I have also attached a copy of my book below and would be thrilled if you just even scroll through it. )
What
to do now, I was so tired of all these heartbreaks. But I can’t give up
on the dream to be among the greats of the markets. So, I tried once
again. I had heard Tony Robbins say once that when you don’t have
resources you have to use resourcefulness. So, I thought that let me get my capital by teaching others to trade.
So,
there I started work again creating advertisement, making
presentations, creating website, distributing flyers and banners to
promote my Trading Workshop. Many people called up to enquire and I
arranged a Hotel to conduct the workshop. Hoping a good number of
people to turn up and then conduct a few more workshops and there I
shall have my required capital to trade.
And just as life would have it again, only 3 people turned up.
I was devastated once again. However, I conducted the workshop at big
loss. They loved it so I didn’t give up. Tried to conduct more
workshops but every time just 5 or 7 people show up. This way I was not
going anywhere.
So, there you can say I did fail again.
I
am so at a loss of direction now sir, so, I write to you. I worked as
hard as I could. Yes, my ideas were not revolutionary ones but I
genuinely did with all my heart and with whatever limited resources I
had. I sure have my share of faults as to why still I am not able to
raise the money to do the thing I love so much – To Trade.
So,
I have this Burning Question which I would like to know from the Man
himself whom I aspire to be like, who have walked the life of my dreams
and emerged victorious the other side. You are what I want to be. What might take a moment for you to show me the path, it might take many years for me just to figure it out.
‘Sir, does it really have to be so hard to be able to do what we really love?’
Is
it so much to ask? We have only one life so I don’t want to waste my
life doing something I don’t love, living someone else’s life when I
know I am meant to be a Trader, one of the best trader in the world.
And
as per the poem ‘The Road Not Taken’ by Robert Frost - Yes, I know 2
roads diverge into a yellow wood and I am already on the path less
travelled by, all knowing that this road isn’t going to be easy
& I am ready to face all but I am just a bit lost among the woods.
I believe with all my heart despite all my failures that I am on the
road, I still wake up every morning with all hope and no regrets about
walking this unknown terrain. Yes, it’s true I am stuck now, not able
to see ahead but the path is not wrong and it’s something my heart is
truly in love with.
I believe every human being has the potential to achieve greatness, to be all that they can be.
It
sure is not happening over here in a million years no matter how hard I
try. You sure realize the agony and pain of not being able to do
something you love and know you can be great at but maybe because of
being at the wrong place, with no exposure, nobody to guide, you never
get to evolve to your fullest potential.
So, I write to you with the hope that maybe some door might just open up. Show me the path Ed Seykota Sir.
Here
in India, in our culture it is said that by being at the feet of the
master, we evolve. Not at the head but by being at the feet, by being
humble we can achieve greatness.
So, I too seek to be at your feet, be you disciple. Mentor me Ed Seykota Sir. Please.
Maybe
there have been a time when you started off, you got stuck, didn’t know
what to do, felt directionless and maybe at that point of your life,
someone, out of nowhere came to your rescue, showed you the path and
here you are, Ed Seykota, a person people across the world aspires to
be like.
I shall forever wait to hear a word from you.
Your Great Fan
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Thank you for sharing your process and for directly requesting instructions from me for walking on the path.
OK, here's your path:
1. Take two large books to a very public place in the morning.
2. Hold one book in each hand and extend your arms out from your body, horizontally, so as to form a "T."
3. Continue to hold the books in this position, motionless, for five hours.
4.
If you fail, announce to everyone, loudly, and with a broad
smile, "I just failed to accomplish a rather difficult and
meaningless task - and I really like this feeling." Then, rest
for 5 minutes and repeat from step 2.
5. If you succeed, say nothing and then try again with bigger books.
In any event, write back to FAQ to let everyone know your experience on this path.
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Sep 7, 2018
Woke
Hi Ed,
How woke are you?
British support group can help.
https://www.facebook.com/bbccomedy/ videos/10155552204996778/
best regards,
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Thank you for sharing this important information about how to walk on rice paper without leaving a wrinkle.
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Sep 7, 2008
New Age Stuff
Hi Ed,
I'm
new to forex trading and was googling trading experts, caught my
attention when some one posted you're into new age stuff, Where do I
find your thoughts and work in this area and why?
Best Regards
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Thank you for sharing your process.
You can start your explorations here and now.
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Sep 6, 2018
Disappointment
Dear Chief,
Thank you for your continuing guidance.
My
journey to live my dream does not feel like a dream any more. After
nearly 5 years, my portfolio only just breaks even (after fees).
This
sucks so so so bad. I hate it. I have some ideas that may improve
portfolio performance, but i can't seem to put in the work needed to
test them out.
I feel miserable to my bones. I feel stupid. I feel dumb. I feel disappointment
towards myself. I want to cry, but tears don't come. I feel confusion.
I feel so much angst and fear. I fear letting down my investors badly.
I feel like hiding somewhere. I feel I cannot show my face to the
world. I feel like a loser; a waste of space.
My back
feels a spasm. I feel hopeless. I feel directionless and lost. I feel
remorse and regret about getting into this situation. I feel I have no
talent for anything. And I can't even kill myself because I have kids
and I don't want to leave them fatherless. I feel my children deserve someone better than me. My wife deserves better than me.
I feel broken.
Thank you for listening chief.
I owe you much.
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Thank you for sharing your process and for communicating your feelings.
When we resist our feelings, as adversaries, we also enable drama that compels us to experience our feelings.
When we embrace our feelings, as allies, they bring forth powerful resources and then disappear.
You
might consider walking into the fire, and embracing it fully. The
ashes of one reality become the nutrients of the next.
You might consider fully accepting the guidance and support of your Tribe.
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