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Ed
Seykota's FAQ
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March 27, 2019
Back in the Day
Ed,
Thank you sir for the reply! I appreciated the humor on the FAQ!
I would like to ask you a more personal question, and it doesn’t have to go on the FAQ page.
Anyways,
I was curious to how you felt when you first had developed your trading
systems, and had all of your back tested data, and then proceed to
follow your system and see the live trading match parameters from the
back test?
What were you feeling in the first few years,
and also do you still trade today? Thanks for your time, and have a
splendid day! 😊
Best Regards,
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Thank you for raising this issue.
I gather you wish to know my feelings over a span of years.
I tend to associate specific feelings with a specific event in a specific moment of now.
Over a couple year span I generally cycle through all my feelings countless times.
You might consider taking your feelings about <specific feelings> to Tribe as an entry point.
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March 22, 2019
Zero-Point Process
Dear Ed,
IF
I continue the TTP Zero point process without much resistance at the
exhaustion phase, and if it happened to get an AHA about a particular
situation, I think that completes my TTP process.
However,
I noticed I do not fully follow the action plans I came up with that
AHA. I have to put a lot of effort to follow the action plans. I feel
like I need another TTP session and I get to depend on the TTP for the
right livelihood.
I do not know, I have to put the same
effort for action plans I come up during the rock process. It is my
understanding that if I had completed my process, the need for TTP
disappears.
Any advice for my concern?
Thanks Ed
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Thank you for sharing your process.
You
can use the TTP Zero-Point Process to illuminate some TTP concepts such
as feelings, experience and disappearance. You can also use it medicinally, to feel better in the short run.
You can use the TTP Rocks Process pro-actively, to resolve deep issues and to align with right livelihood.
Similarly,
say you feel you need to lose weight. You can (1 - medicinally) eat a
big ol' mess of cherry pie to make yourself feel better or (2 -
pro-actively) eat less and get more exercise.
You might consider taking your feelings about <medicating your feelings> to Tribe as an entry point.
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March 20, 2019
Reluctant to Pull the Trigger
Ed,
last
year we had a drawdown, our equity portfolio was on losing streak month
after month, hence in December I continue cut my position following the
plan, our portfolio ends the year -14%.
However the stock
market had a V shape recovery, and I feel reluctant to pull the trigger
and follow our trend following system.
Looking at how the
market perform today, our portfolio under perform the index. I feel bad
about the situation as the result does not match my intention and I
feel like fixing it.
Regards
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Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your feelings about <intentions = results> to Tribe as an entry point.
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March
19, 2019
Tribe Meeting
Report
Dear Sir,
Please find the Tribe Meeting Report for the Mumbai Tribe Meeting on 14
March 2019 below.
With 4 members in attendance, we begin with drumming and proceed to
check in.
Check In
TM1:
TM1 shares that he now has an idea of what the issue with his trading
is. But he feels he lacks discipline in journaling all his trades. He
feels this will help him understand his own thinking behind taking
trades. He elects to take this issue to the hotseat.
TM2: He
shares that he may change jobs soon. He feels he has multiple career
options available to him but he is unable to decide which path to take.
TM3: I share my intent to pass an exam. I also share an old
memory of mine from when I am around 6 or 7. My mother is screaming at
me for something and then tells me “You’ll never be able to take care
of yourself financially and we’ll have to take care of you forever.” I
also share my issues about my dating life. I elect to take my intent to
pass the exam to the hotseat. I also share that I feel undeserving of
praise.
TM4: He shares that he is exercising more and feels invigorated by
taking care of his body.
Hotseat 1
TM1 takes the Hotseat with TM4 as the Process Manager.
TM
starts with some story telling. He feels some pain in his neck and we
encourage him to feel it. During the hotseat, TM1 switches between
storytelling and feeling his forms. TM1 feels a pain behind his
eyeballs and a pain in his neck. He shares with us that he feels guilty
about a lot of small things. He also shares that he tries to tide over
the current crises instead of looking for a long term solution. He
feels he is undisciplined about journaling his trades. He feels clogged
in his forehead and remembers the jet engine analogy from
FAQ.
He
rubs his forehead with both his hands and then moves his head sideways.
He also tiptoes. PM asks him to continue tiptoeing. TM1 shares that he
sees an image of a bird tied in elastic bands on a board. He describes
the board as having screws in the corner and elastic bands emanate from
there, tying the bird. The bird also has a plank its head. He mentions
he’s seems to be trying to wiggle out of short-term problems, and not
fixing the long term problem, he draws parallel to using TTP and using
TTP medicinally for the short term and not really fixing the issue. TM1
shares that he realises that the bird can get away only by relying on
itself and no one is coming to save it. Then, TM1s relaxes and mentions
he feels good about being at a place where he can be honest. TM1 elects
to end the process.
Hotseat Check Out
We share
that this is a good process and we think TM1 is making progress. PM
notes that the pain behind the eyes is a signature form and that we can
explore it in a further hotseat. I also worry about HS using this
medicinally. TM1 shares that this is the first time he sees the trapped
bird.
Hotseat 2
I take the hotseat with TM3 as the PM.
I
begin with some storytelling and feel angry about the rote learning I
have to do for 2 subjects. I keep ranting something along the lines of
“Why do I need to learn about Bluetooth & its range? It is
stupid.”
I also rant about another subject and consider it a scam and useless. I
feel a pain in the left side of my chest around my heart. I hear the
Tribe's encouragement and continue to focus on the pain. I also feel a
square tightness in my stomach. I hear the encouragement and continue
to focus on the pain. I remark to the Tribe that I feel stupid and the Tribe
encourages me to feel stupid.
I
see an image where I am enclosed in a cocoon. I stretch in multiple
directions but I realise that I need to punch my way out. I remark that
I feel safe here and that I deserve to be in the cocoon but I do want
to get out. I feel some conflict in me about getting out, but I decide
to get out of the cocoon.
I also share that I feel like I
am wasting the Tribe's time. I am hesitant about punching my way out
and think I need permission. PM encourages me/gives me permission and I
keep punching. I feel the cocoon breaking but also feel stuck. I punch
for some time and then resort to tearing the cocoon from the inside. I
feel an electric sensation in my fingertips & nails. I continue
to
feel the sensation. After that I feel like the cocoon is now
broken and a large enough gap exists for me to get out. I am worried about standing up
and stepping out.
PM encourages
me to stand up and move ahead. I do as instructed.
I open my eyes and feel different and invigorated. I am hesitant to sit
down on the hotseat as I fear going back in the cocoon. I elect to end
the hotseat.
Hotseat Check Out
PM shares that
prior to the HS, he is worried about leading but he does a good job.
TM4 remarks that he sees the “undeserving” part of me come out during
the hotseat when I say things like “I am wasting the Tribe's time.” I
also thank PM for giving me the permission to punch my way out of the
cocoon.
Regards,
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Thank
you for sharing your process and your insights - and for documenting
your Tribe meeting.
Regarding I am
worried about standing up and stepping out. PM encourages me to stand up and
move ahead:
PM might like to consider the alternative,
"Good work! Keep worrying about standing up and stepping out."
In
your narrative, PM provides advice and direction; in the alternative,
PM extends the healing field and provides acknowledgment.
This subtle difference appears at the heart of TTP, on the boundary
between control-centric and intimacy-centric relating.
You might also consider reviewing the Rocks Process. See TTP Extensions,
available free as a download in the Trading Tribe Store, at Resources,
above.
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March
18, 2019
Evil and
Soulless
see below: Wants to Meet
For that (lead to Michael) I didn’t need to ask you.
I did contact you a while ago and I bought your book consequently.
I would appreciate if you could send my request to Michael and let him
make a decision whether or not he contacts me.
Sometimes
doing good is actually better than not doing anything. I leave the
doing bad for the evil soulless people. In this instance your judgment
failed.
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Thank
you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your feelings about
<entitlement> and <protecting your friends>
to Tribe as entry points.
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March
17, 2019
Swing Trading
Hello,
I
was wondering if someone could advise me on the following question?
“How far back is too far back for traceable/reliable swing points.”
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Thank
you for raising the question about swing-trading parameters.
Swing Trading generally refers to trading intermediate moves (swings)
within a larger trend.
I do not have any profitable back-test results for swing-trading
systems. Nor do I have a definition of swing trading rigorous enough to
enable back testing.
I
consider swing trading as engaging, absorbing and exciting - and useful
in raising dopamine levels. This can act medicinally - as a distraction
from deeper issues around implementing right livelihood.
Absent risk control and other trading disciplines, it can also lead to
financial self-demolition.
In this spirit, I offer the following:
Regarding your question about specific swing parameters, some pros
recommend 5/8" sisal. Others prefer
1/2" Manila hemp. Swing traders on a budget might prefer 1/4" nylon.
You
might like to avoid flax and cotton.
To execute a simple swing, loop the working end. Then, tie a simple
overhand knot around the standing end.
With practice and experience, your swing can exemplify both
strength and beauty.
If
you also want to know more about the
tools, terminology and
culture of swing trading, you can enroll in various on-line
courses.

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Swing
Trading
The swing you ride
may depend how you feel
about yourself.
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Attribution |
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March
15, 2019
Wants to Get
a Round Tuit
Dear Ed,
Could you confirm the address to which I should send a request for a
Round Tuit?
please?
Thank you.
Regards,
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Thank
you for asking how to get a Round Tuit.
See instructions at the TT Store at Resources, above.
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March
14, 2019
Long
Hi Ed:
May my note find you and yours both healthy and happy.
I see in the area of your Web site:
Watch an actual LONG-ONLY TREND-FOLLOWING SYSTEM trade futures.
A long position being taken in Cotton Futures. I stand back from the
chart, as you taught me in P.R., and I don't see an upward trend. Would
you please explain how this trade represents
long term trend following? I am certainly missing something. Please see
attached.
Thanks much in advance for your thoughts on this.
Warmest Regards:
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Thank
you for raising this issue.
The term "long" can have at least two meanings in trading.
It can refer to duration as in "long term"; it can also refer to
posture as in "long position."
In the case of the Long-Only system, long refers to posture.
The
system trades only from the long side. As you point out it
does not use particularly long-duration parameters.
As with all demo systems on my site, I do not furnish parameters of
recommend following the systems. They appear as examples only.
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March
12, 2019
Sticking with
the System
Dear Ed,
I am part of the Mumbai Tribe. I trade high-beta stocks which
tend to move lot more than the NIFTY50 Index, using a system.
I am long a stock and it opens gap up 15%.
I feel
anxiety on losing
away the gains and am tempted to consider exiting the
position.
The stocks falls 3% and is now up 12%. I visualise it falling
to
-12%, and then back up to +12%. I feel an 'Aha'.
Whatever is
the outcome, I
am ready to accept it. The tension eases. I continue to go about with
the system without interfering with my trade.
Thank you.
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Thank
you for sharing
your process.
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March
12, 2019
Wants to Meet
Dear Ed,
I would love to meet you and discuss with you investment strategies.
Same would apply to one of your students – Michael Markus.
Would you please happen to have his email and contact info?
It seems that both of your records speak volumes as to how can a human
effort beat the unbeatable market – and consistently make upwards of
50% returns year in year out.
Thank you in advance for your time and effort.
Sincerely,
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Thank
you for reaching
out to me.
If you wish to meet, please see my terms for private
consulting.
If you wish to raise issues, for free, on this forum, you may continue
to do so.
For both, see Ground Rules, above.
You might consider entering "Michael Markus, Austin TX" into your
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March
9, 2019
The Best
Sir,
Kindly explain The best support and resistance level calculation method
in Commodity Market.
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Thank
you for raising
this issue.
The "best" generally refers to that which confers the most advantage.
As such, the best things for you depend on your own personal situation
and desires.
For example some people might have a higher or lower risk tolerance.
You might consider taking your feelings about <risk> to
Tribe as
an entry point.
You might also consider engaging back testing to help locate specific
parameters.
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March
7, 2019
Inspiration
Hey Mr. Seykota,
... I’m a 23 year old trader originally from Brazil. I just felt
compelled to write to you after studying you for so long.
I’ve been trading for 6 years, and 2 of the most recent years
professionally. I’ve become fascinated with all of your work, and truly
believe you are one of the greatest traders of all time, which I’m sure
you hear that often.
Anyways all of your theories, and ideas have taught me so much, and
helped me achieve things I never thought possible. I’m truly grateful
for all you have done for the trading community, and just wanted to let
you know even today you are inspiring traders all over the globe!
Thanks for all you’ve done, and for being the inspiration that you are!
Yours Truly,
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Thank
you for
acknowledging me and the work.
You can inspire (fill someone else) with the urge or ability to do or
feel something creative.
You can also inspire by doing little more than breathing air into your
lungs.
Note: the later may also invoke a requirement for expiration.

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Inspiration
and
Expiration
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Source |
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March
7, 2019
Tribe Meeting
Report
Dear Ed,
We present here the report of our Trading Tribe meet on 28th Feb 2019.
There are 5 members present. We start the meet with the regular jamming
session.
TM1 starts with his check-in. He shares that his trading is getting better
and he
feels its because joining TT part 2 but again he is aware that this
feeling had come to him a lot of time. He says that some of his clients
have left him but he is ok with it since he has not been performing
well. He doesn’t feel
hot.
TM2 says while he was jamming he had tears in eyes as he remembered the
talk with Ed. He says he don’t know the reason may be these are tears
of happiness.
He also says that his heart beat is high. He tells that he had a good weekend
with his family
going to a place to play board games and they played Catan. He says
that he didn’t wanted his son to play video games so he found out this
place. After the check-in process TM3 points that this can be an entry
point where TM2 may be wanting to control his son.
TM3 informs that his relationship
with his father is getting better. He says that his
grandparents
visited recently and he feels that his grandfather repeatedly says that
all his (grandfathers) money is for children’s and he has to spend
money carefully. His grandfather also keeps saying “Why do we need so
much money? We do not deserve or require so much money.”. And
TM3
feels that this irritates him. After the check-in process TM5
(TL) points that this can be an entry point.
TM4 informs that he recently calculated the loss in his personal
account due to his urge of trading and finds that he has lost 3 to 4
times more than what he had thought. He does this because he does not
want to interfere with the systems he is running for clients.
However, seeing the
magnitude of
loss, TM4 is alarmed and feels frustrated. He is willing to
work
on it but is not hot at the moment.
TM5 informs that he had been sick the last 10 days due to indigestion
and visited his hometown. As he was discussing with his family members
about the list of people to be called for his marriage, TM5’s father didn’t want to call
some
relatives and his father was also not willing to share his (the
father’s) recommendations. This made TM5 angry and he
walked
away only to come back in few seconds and tried to resolve the
issue.
The Tribe
unanimously
agrees that TM5 is the hottest and he takes the HS. TM1
agrees
to manage the process. The HS starts by telling the incident. He then
starts moving his right hand performing a karate chop on his left hand.
He keeps chopping. He describes seeking rhythm while doing repetitive
movements.
Then he holds the skin between his left index finger and thumb with his
right hand. He presses hard and feels a lot of pain, he asks “why am I
putting myself in pain”, looks up and says, “if I’m hurting myself,
then stop!”.
He laughs as he gets the Aha! In between he sees the TM3 tapping his
toes, and remarks him to keep tapping. As we continue, he also
remembers about Girls from school cheering his name in a funny way.
Then he realizes that he is not working out and needs to get back into
sport. At one point he stands and then sits on the floor as he would do
at the end of a match.
He says he is
willing but
very tired and wishes to end the process. In the Check-out
the
PM says he was not satisfied with the his own management. He also said
that HS was doing more storytelling than feeling the pain in the body.
During checkout, TM4 mentions that the sports field and sports are a
recurring theme in TM5’s hot seats.
TM2 informs the Tribe that he would like to do a process as he feels
quite hot. TM3 agrees to be the PM. TM2 starts with stating that he is
very excited to think that Ed is coming to India, his heartbeat has
increased, he feels it’s above normal and he would like to work on it.
He closes his eyes and soon finds a cold fire on his spine. He wished
to observe it. He meanwhile starts shaking his right hand. He informs
that there is a pain building on his left shoulder. He soon recollects
that when he was 14 years old he had Tuberculosis and water was filled
in his left lungs.
He recalls the process for removing the water through an injection from
his back. The treatment was for about 9 months and he used to have pain
while swallowing. He continues the process and starts to move his left
arm forcefully behind the back. He says he wants to punish himself.
The PM
freezes him and
asks how he feels about it. TM2 says he remembers an incidence from the
past but is unwilling to share it with the Tribe.
After some strong forms he shows his willingness to share the
incidence. He tells that when we was about 16 years old there was a
girl about 12 years old as a neighbour. They used to play together
initially then the girl suddenly stopped talking to him for no reason
known to him. One day he decided to go to her school. As the girl sat
on a cycle rickshaw he tried to ask her the reason for not talking. The
girl avoided to talk. This made him angry, he took his scooter driving
recklessly. Since that day he found each day the girl was accompanied
by her dad to and fro the school. This made him ashamed that he has
frighten a small girl for no good reason.
The Tribe
concurs that HS
has given himself a Rock around this incident. We
role-play this
incident.
The Tribe
Leader hands
over a rock to TM2 stating that “I give you this heart rock. In the
situations where you feel ashamed, remember this rock and confront the
situation”.
We decide
that a good
response is that HS can apologize to the Father of the girl.
TM4
becomes the girl. TM3 enacts as the father of the girl. In the
role-play the father screams at HS. He feels angry and scared at HS
being romantically attracted to his young daughter and chasing her on
the streets.
HS feels scared at the response of the father, he apologizes and
promises that he will not try to meet the girl again. The father
accepts his apology. We end the role-play and release TM3 and TM4 from
their respective roles. The
Rocks
Process ends.
In the check-out TM4 is also amazed that during the process, when HS
shares that he (HS) feels a pain in his chest, he attributes to his
Tuberculosis treatment. TM4 is unaware of the fact that HS is also a
former TB patient. As a former Tuberculosis patient, TM4 is amazed that
they both were TB patients.
Thanks & Rgds,
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Thank
you for sharing
your process, for documenting your Tribe meeting and for sharing your
insights.
You might consider taking the following issues to Tribe for discussion:
1. Member unwillingness to share or engage process.
2. Members terminating process.
3. Engaging the Rocks Process in name only - without following
protocols.
For more information on the TT Rocks Process,
see Essentials in the Shop at Resources, above.
You might consider taking your feelings about <following the
system> to Tribe as an entry point.
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March
6, 2019
Guessing
Ed,
This question has always puzzled me with you.
You mention
never
risking more than 2.5% of total equity on any one trade.
You also
mention a
four stock portfolio offering the best ROI (albeit with higher
volatility)
I presume
you do
not trade a four stock portfolio.
One time you
mention
anyone investing money with you should be able to risk 50% of that
capital....
I think it has been shown
anyone that holds more 15 stocks cannot beat the averages.
I am guessing
you
hold 8-12 stocks?
Let's say my stop loss is 50% from entry. The average loss is about
half that. If I was following your 2.5% risk is it based on the average
stop loss or the maximum? If maximum I would have to hold 20
stocks...IF average i could come down to 12.
Can you tell me how many stocks you hold? No trade secrets there just
an interest i have always had.
Regards
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Thank
you for raising
this issue.
I wonder if you can specify exactly where I "mention" all the mentions
- and also where "it has been shown."
You might consider taking your feelings about <trading on
presumptions and guesswork> to Tribe as an entry point.
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March
5, 2019
New Approach
Dear Sir,
After reading your comments on our meeting report (Feb 17, 2019), I
change my approach as a Process Manager.
In our meeting on 28 February, 2019, every time after I freeze the Hot
Seat, I ask him if he recalls feeling like this during any incident of
his life. The precise question I ask is: "Do you recall having this
feeling earlier in your life?"
At one time during the process, Hot Seat tells me that he does remember an incident, but
choses
not to share it.
As we proceed further, Hot Seat says that he "deserves to be punished"
and
choses to share the incident from his when he is around 16 years old.
Hot Seat tells us that he is angry and ashamed at himself for scaring a girl (aged
around
12) he is romantically attracted to. The girl cuts of all
contact
with HS abruptly.
HS then sees the girl in a rickshaw and then asks her why she is
avoiding him. The girl
continues to
avoid him and does not reply. Angered at this, HS rides
away
angrily on a scooter, driving recklessly. When HS later sees the girl
going to school, he sees that the Girls father always accompanies her
and feels ashamed and angry
at
himself for terrorizing a small girl.
The Tribe concurs that HS has given himself a shame rock around
this incident. We
roleplay this incident . We decide that a good response is that HS can
apologize to
the Father of the girl.
I play the role of the father and scream at HS during the roleplay. I
feel angry and scared at HS being romantically attracted to a young
girl and chasing her on the streets and scaring her. HS apologizes to
me and I accept his
apology and warn
him to keep away from the girl. We end the Hot Seat/rocks process.
During the process, HS shares with me that he (HS) feels a pain in his
chest, he recalls feeling a similar pain during his Tuberculosis
treatment.
I was unaware of the fact that HS is a former TB patient. I am amazed
at the synchronicity that I and HS are both former TB
patients
and that I am the Process Manager for his process.
Regards,
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Thank
you for sharing
your process, for documenting your Tribe meeting and for sharing your
insights.
I gather that you successfully assist your client to identify his
perpetration (scaring the girl) and to gain absolution through making
amends through apology.
Your new process may, ironically, lead to further
perpetrations.
In the Rocks Process, we follow a definite protocol to identify the
Stressor, the Client and the Rock Donor.
In this case we might have, the girl as the Stressor, your Tribe Member
as the Client and the Rock Donor as (for example) the Client's father.
During the Rocks Process, Client comes to see the Rock Donor scaring
someone (his wife, for example) as part his way of dealing with
rejection. Incidentally, the wife might also have a pattern
of
rejecting people who scare her, so they fit together and create an
ongoing cycle - perhaps as a way to avoid committing to Right
Livelihood.
The client also comes to see how he receives this Rock (response
pattern) from the Rock Donor - and continues to use it again and again
as one of his primary organizing principles.
Later in the Rocks Process, the Client comes to "forgive" the Rock back
to the Rock Donor, along with acknowledging the Rock Donor's desire to
share the Rock with Client to help him cope with the "real world" as he
sees it. The client also comes to accept the Heart Rock as a
replacement.
A Rock represents a function that links emotion with action.
In
this case, you might call the Rock a Rejection-to-Frighten Rock, since
it links the feeling of rejection by the girl to the action of
frightening the girl.
Calling the Rock a "Shame Rock" indicates misunderstanding the Rocks
Process and then going on to invoking apology as a way to medicate
feelings of shame.
Reducing shame may also reduce inhibition to scaring people.
You might consider fortifying your understanding of the Rocks Process
by reading TTP
Extensions. For more information on the TT Rocks Process,
see TTP Essentials in the Shop at Resources, above.
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March
2, 2019
Tribe Meeting
Report
Hi Ed,
I hope all is well. Writing to FAQ to share our first Tribe
session, it went well.
The Feb 6th session 3 members attend. One of the members is new to
Trading Tribe, has read the TT book, and gets right into his forms and
supporting others. We all share similar forms of tightness in throat, getting
choked up, and
gagging. The new member remarks about Fred bringing us
together
and shares amazement about this.
During the first round of checkouts I notice one member has a recurring
form that showed up in another Tribe, of getting into a feeling in his
head as a feeling in another part of his body is peaking.
The hot seat thanks me and we discuss Zero-Point and Rocks process to
get into this. We agree both can work and I suggest Zero Point to focus
on the body feeling. The hot seat agrees and has a very intense session
of weight on his shoulders supporting everything, an atlas form emerges
and he goes with it, the Tribe cheers him on supporting everything and
everyone and it's all on him.
During checkout the hot seat shares that prior to the meeting he went
to his parents house to solve his parents problems, even though they
didn't ask for his help. He has an ah-ha that he is creating small
responsibilities to distract him from big ones -- that he is creating "solving everyones
problems" and
creating dramas to avoid responsibilities.
We thank him for sharing.
The new member takes the hot seat and gets into tightness in his face, leg
rubbing,
squeezing fists, swallowing, tired around his eyes, and teeth clenching
with "weird big jaw".
The forms quickly move from one to another and at fist squeezing he
really gets into it and "doesn't want to be mad any more", the Tribe
doubles down in validating the hot seats feelings, we ramp up drumming
and really get into encouraging fist squeezing and teeth clenching and
"mad". The hots seats shaking peaks, a zero point emerges, and the hot
seat comes down.
During checkout the hot seat "doesn't
want to think about it, just wants to be", "doesn't want to go through
the door", "doesn't want to hate anymore"
We thank him for sharing.
I take the hot seat and get into gagging
and an intense pain in my right wrist that leads to shaking my hands
vigorously, I stick with it, the Tribe encourages me to
ramp it
up, and the sharp pain increases and increases, the room seems to dark
out and I can hear the other members but I can't see them, I focus on
the wrist shaking and the sharp pain transforms into a dull broader
wrist pain that fades into muscle soreness.
During checkout I share visions
of
feeling uncomfortable playing baseball, "nervousness", and gagging
during baseball games.
The Tribe thanks me for sharing.
Another round of hot seat proceeds and forms that emerge are "ping pong ball in center
throat" that
transforms into a "long dry cotton swab" and an admission
that
during a Breathwork session the hot seat stopped when he started
gagging.
Summary notes:
I think there is merit to zero point in focusing on specific forms and
exhausting them to allow for other forms to come through. There are
times when many forms come through quickly and halting at a peak
doesn't result in the collapsing of the Judge that leads to an ah-ha or
breakthrough memory, since there are many feelings and judgements that
might need multiple sessions to sort out.
Since the
meeting all
members share positive changes including, left knee pain that has
changed, a more open throat, car issues that resolved without much
effort, better sleep, jaw no longer swollen "weird", being more
outgoing and connecting with others, and getting into other bigger
issues.
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Thank
you for sharing
your process, for documenting your Tribe meeting and for sharing your
insights.
The Zero-Point process yields rapid "relief" from symptoms and also
provides a vivid demonstration of the deep relationships between
internal feelings and external situations. It also allows you to "let
off steam" in front of other supportive and validating Tribe members.
You might consider monitoring your Tribe for the appearance of
'signature forms," a sign of continuing to use the Zero-Point Process
to medicate symptoms - rather than deal with underlying issues.
If you notice the appearance of Signature Forms, you might consider
"graduating" to the Rocks Process.
For more information on the Rocks Process, see reports on FAQ and read TTP Extensions,
a pamphlet
that comes with The
Trading
Tribe.
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